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nicolous — Mon, 13 May 2013 06:45:22 GMT

I didn't use Magic chef..bt I suppose to do that ..so if anyone having experience could share with us..It will bit easier for us to understand.

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nicolous — Mon, 13 May 2013 06:42:10 GMT

@Lynnette I do agree with you..in this forum I also didn't see any Kitchen appliance topic.. so nice way to start your own thread thanks for that..so keep sharing your experience with us.so we will clear all our doubts..

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Nate — Sat, 11 May 2013 15:24:05 GMT

Thanks for the response. Some of this we've tried, some we haven't. This really is a great help though, thanks. Much appreciated.

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Kenneth in Lees Summit, MO — Sat, 11 May 2013 11:10:44 GMT

You say you are coming along pretty well, with the exception of framers. This implies you have other subcontractors lined up, or at least providing you bids. I guarantee each of these subcontractors knows framers they have worked with. Why not ask sparky, or your plumber, or your HVAC tech, or your other trades if they have framers they recommend?

Absent that, why not call some local lumber suppliers and talk to them? Steer clear of Big Orange and Big Green; while they have a Pro Desk - this isn't their primary business. Call McCray, 84 Lumber, Schutte, Owen (these are all local to Kansas City, I am not sure what your locality is). Maybe you are not in Kansas City, but I guarantee you have a local lumberyard close by that caters to professionals; find them, call, and talk to one of their sales representatives who sells to professionals.

And last, I framed my own house. However I had never done any framing before. I called the day-labor shops (I had accounts at Labor Pros and Labor Ready) and told them I was looking for framers. I got a commercial framer, his company bounced a paycheck and he needed money. There isn't a faster way to find short-term employment that the day-labor shop. He brought his own tools and a ton of expertise (and he knew others who worked for his same employer). He found a permanent job pretty quickly, but I certainly took advantage of this situation. In another situation, I found a framing carpenter who had relocated for family reasons; again what better way to find short-term employment quickly? He is now a union carpenter, but again I took advantage of his short-term employment situation. Framing my own house saved a ton of money, but it was nice to work side-by-side with a professional to help me.

On a side note, another reason you can get skilled labor out of the day-labor shops is because they get a DWI. They can't drive, they have a hard time working construction as this is a somewhat mobile workforce that needs capability to haul materials as well. Sure, they come with another trade (or general labor as a driver), but a skilled (insert any trade here) and a general laborer can work pretty efficiently to provide needed skills to your build. One skilled framing carpenter can become very efficient coupled with two other laborers with less (or minimal) expertise. And general labor costs less than skilled labor.

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Nate — Thu, 09 May 2013 11:47:54 GMT

My wife and I are owner-building with my brother who is a licensed architect. We're currently bidding out the project and everything is coming along pretty well with the exception of framers. They're all out of business. I know there have to be a ton of framing pros out of work, but it's practically impossible to track those guys down. Anyone on here have any luck?

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