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| | QuarterlyHouse | 26,890 | 10 | 99 | | 1/16/2008 | Orlando, FL |
| | ICF-Keller-Tx | 21,982 | 6 | 120 | | 4/9/2008 | Roanoke, TX |
| | LittleLakeCorner | 21,835 | 68 | 569 | | 2/23/2008 | Groveland, FL |
| | 10000-sq-feet | 20,534 | 3 | 26 | | 8/26/2007 | La Habra Heights, CA |
| | toolehouse | 20,059 | 21 | 144 | | 12/3/2007 | Sparks, NV |
| | cosdreamhome | 19,801 | 4 | 147 | Monday | Colorado Springs, CO |
| | TheHoskensProject | 17,827 | 17 | 102 | | 4/11/2008 | Melbourne, FL |
| | Circle-S_ICF_House | 15,310 | 5 | 264 | | 8/21/2007 | Sparta, IL |
| | Powderhorn | 9,128 | 4 | 176 | | 10/4/2007 | Florida |
| | WilliamsinVegas | 7,385 | 14 | 99 | | 4/6/2008 | Henderson, NV |
| | Octagonal-Topsider-i... | 7,224 | 2 | 2 | | 6/5/2007 | Cupertino , CA |
| | Wheres-Waldo | 6,702 | 22 | 83 | | 4/2/2008 | Marion, OH |
| | OwensNewHome | 6,240 | 23 | 20 | Wednesday | Chandler, AZ |
| | Beaver-Creek-Ranch | 6,092 | 6 | 128 | | 4/9/2008 | Santa Rosa, CA |
| | TheWillemsHome | 6,053 | 3 | 5 | | 9/10/2007 | Galloway Township, NJ |
| | 19225-ROBERTSON-ST | 5,985 | 2 | 32 | | 7/12/2007 | Orlando, FL |
| | PennsmithLostValleyT... | 5,405 | 39 | 191 | | 3/29/2008 | Dripping Springs, TX |
| | Working-Wilton | 5,326 | 16 | 138 | | 3/27/2008 | Wilton, NH |
| | Homestead | 5,277 | 28 | 30 | | 5/3/2008 | Smithville, MO |
| | Our-Ohio-ICF-home | 5,221 | 12 | 27 | | 3/20/2008 | Mansfield, OH |
| | ICFAnnArborMichigan | 4,930 | 22 | 332 | | 2/28/2008 | Dexter, MI |
| | WindyJ | 4,588 | 2 | 26 | | 7/2/2007 | Knoxville, TN |
| | DreamHome | 4,583 | 16 | 147 | | 4/10/2008 | Orlando, FL |
| | WeAreBuildingAgain | 4,368 | 27 | 56 | | 11/15/2007 | Orlando, FL |
| | Bobs-Blog | 4,237 | 65 | 415 | | 4/8/2008 | New Florence, PA |
| | 4600SF-Dream-Home-in... | 4,167 | 2 | 1 | | 6/19/2007 | Mooresville, NC |
| | CanyonCove | 4,141 | 1 | 0 | | 9/12/2007 | Provo, UT |
| | Tampa-Bay | 3,889 | 3 | 9 | | 6/10/2007 | Ruskin, FL |
| | Dream-In-Progress | 3,728 | 3 | 4 | | 6/7/2007 | Shawnee, KS |
| | Thomas-Home--Raintre... | 3,401 | 24 | 180 | | 4/9/2008 | Lee's Summit, MO |
| | Gordon-Lake-House | 3,337 | 15 | 51 | | 1/3/2008 | Oakland, IA |
| | Arkansas-First-Timer | 3,232 | 28 | 66 | | 5/2/2008 | Trumann, AR |
| | Luray-VA-1stTimeBuil... | 3,075 | 3 | 3 | | 10/4/2007 | Luray, VA |
| | Florida-Waterfront-C... | 3,068 | 2 | 1 | | 12/29/2007 | PB, FL |
| | CastleHeims | 3,023 | 5 | 3 | | 3/8/2008 | cedar rapids, IA |
| | Taking-the-Plunge | 2,958 | 3 | 18 | | 9/18/2007 | Springfield, OH |
| | NutmegWedgefieldOrla... | 2,795 | 1 | 0 | | 6/22/2007 | Orlando, FL |
| | Building-the-Dream-i... | 2,705 | 3 | 0 | | 11/29/2007 | Gladstone, OR |
| | ClearwaterHills | 2,564 | 1 | 6 | | 12/14/2007 | Paradise Valley, AZ |
| | Lewis-Chapel-House | 2,522 | 1 | 0 | | 6/25/2007 | Dunlap, TN |
| | Bruce in Petrolia, O... | 2,520 | 3 | 2 | | 10/4/2007 | Petrolia, ON |
| | South-Dakota-Lake-Ho... | 2,505 | 1 | 11 | | 5/23/2007 | Sioux Falls, SD |
| | Bert- | 2,479 | 2 | 1 | | 3/20/2008 | Southern, CA |
| | Country-Cleaver | 2,417 | 1 | 4 | | 5/29/2007 | Springfield, IL |
| | BigOakBuilderTX | 2,408 | 1 | 7 | | 7/20/2007 | Texas |
| | Phil-and-Lauras-home | 2,401 | 1 | 0 | | 5/17/2007 | Tulsa, OK |
| | TheOwens | 2,376 | 1 | 0 | | 6/1/2007 | Dickson, TN |
| | Gardeners-Delight | 2,349 | 3 | 3 | | 5/13/2007 | Norristown, PA |
| | Louisiana-Mediterran... | 2,336 | 26 | 163 | | 3/28/2008 | Lafayette, LA |
| | Grove-St-Rocklin | 2,232 | 1 | 0 | | 5/13/2007 | Orangevale, CA |
| | The-Ponderosa | 2,197 | 3 | 22 | | 11/4/2007 | Perry, OK |
| | Vistoso-Green-Home | 2,162 | 3 | 1 | | 6/28/2007 | Tucson, AZ |
| | Raider-Bills-Tenn-Ho... | 2,157 | 3 | 15 | | 3/20/2008 | Largo, FL |
| | Phil-Kobyluck | 2,141 | 8 | 16 | | 1/23/2008 | Glendale, AZ |
| | hammock | 2,049 | 1 | 1 | | 5/14/2007 | Martinez, GA |
| | joeb | 2,000 | 4 | 0 | | 4/15/2008 | oakland, FL |
| | Coeur-dAlene-Idaho-H... | 1,994 | 2 | 4 | | 6/13/2007 | Coeur d Alene, ID |
| | Gods-Home | 1,953 | 2 | 0 | | 5/18/2007 | Eustis, FL |
| | Sowle-Family-House | 1,945 | 5 | 9 | | 4/29/2008 | South Burlington, VT |
| | VilanoBeachCasa-de-S... | 1,935 | 24 | 65 | | 4/22/2008 | Saint Augustine, FL |
| | httpownerbuilderbook... | 1,906 | 8 | 3 | | 2/19/2008 | Clayton, NY |
| | Ingram-Fleming-ICF-H... | 1,845 | 4 | 8 | | 11/29/2007 | Plant City, FL |
| | Crystal-Falls-home | 1,842 | 8 | 6 | | 3/3/2008 | cedar park, TX |
| | father-daughter | 1,757 | 2 | 0 | | 6/25/2007 | Loveland, CO |
| | Spicewood-TX | 1,744 | 3 | 3 | | 10/20/2007 | Austin, TX |
| | davewhite | 1,715 | 1 | 0 | | 6/24/2007 | Nanaimo, BC |
| | todd-in-tullahoma | 1,701 | 1 | 0 | | 6/4/2007 | tullahoma, TN |
| | The-Larnerd-House | 1,687 | 5 | 21 | | 1/21/2008 | Newport news, VA |
| | Thattle-Dew-Farm | 1,660 | 2 | 2 | | 7/12/2007 | Halls Harbour, NS |
| | Riley | 1,628 | 28 | 76 | | 2/13/2008 | Cave Creek, AZ |
| | RamblewoodatJeterFar... | 1,627 | 6 | 33 | | 8/10/2007 | Kansas City, MO |
| | 302 | 1,581 | 3 | 5 | | 10/31/2007 | Belfair, WA |
| | Kraemer-Collinwood-H... | 1,571 | 2 | 0 | | 7/21/2007 | Delano, MN |
| | ComfortHome | 1,569 | 3 | 0 | | 8/30/2007 | Dublin, OH |
| | Pensacola-Waterfront | 1,548 | 1 | 0 | | 7/16/2007 | Pensacola, FL |
| | Poplar-Creek-Farm | 1,539 | 5 | 25 | | 9/10/2007 | Oakland Park, FL |
| | Bird-house | 1,531 | 3 | 40 | | 8/22/2007 | Ithaca, NY |
| | DDs-ICF | 1,526 | 3 | 3 | | 1/27/2008 | New Smyrna Bch, FL |
| | Heart-of-PA | 1,512 | 1 | 2 | | 8/31/2007 | Lewistown, PA |
| | Blue-Springs-Project | 1,484 | 8 | 23 | | 2/24/2008 | Broken Arrow, OK |
| | Pahrump-Project | 1,476 | 3 | 16 | | 3/2/2008 | Spokane, WA |
| | backwoodsproject | 1,406 | 1 | 0 | | 8/30/2007 | Dry Branch, GA |
| | Superstition-Views | 1,396 | 29 | 160 | | 3/6/2008 | Mesa, AZ |
| | RozBuildingAdventure | 1,390 | 1 | 0 | | 9/14/2007 | San Pablo, CA |
| | STEPHANIES-DREAM | 1,379 | 17 | 57 | | 12/30/2007 | Lower Burrell, PA |
| | Johnson-Family-Dream | 1,374 | 1 | 0 | | 7/20/2007 | Normal, IL |
| | ArtistHaven | 1,370 | 6 | 5 | | 2/26/2008 | Kansas City, MO |
| | AirparkRemodel | 1,361 | 2 | 4 | | 3/20/2008 | Hillsboro, OR |
| | Beckynray | 1,348 | 3 | 0 | | 10/24/2007 | Powhatan, VA |
| | Helpful-Tips | 1,337 | 2 | 0 | | 9/13/2007 | Encinitas, CA |
| | New-England-Saltbox | 1,295 | 1 | 0 | | 8/16/2007 | Columbia, SC |
| | kittyfhughesnet | 1,225 | 2 | 5 | | 9/27/2007 | Noblesville, IN |
| | 6158-in-Montgomery-T... | 1,187 | 4 | 1 | | 12/23/2007 | Conroe, TX |
| | JnG | 1,163 | 1 | 0 | | 8/28/2007 | Miami, FL |
| | Sheldon-St | 1,131 | 3 | 0 | | 3/21/2008 | Orlando, FL |
| | RabbitRun | 1,086 | 20 | 102 | Monday | Afton, VA |
| | Scott-Family | 1,065 | 1 | 0 | | 9/25/2007 | Trinity, AL |
| | 2008-Cedar-Ln | 1,014 | 13 | 33 | Wednesday | seaville, NJ |
| | mike-and-tori-darnle... | 994 | 3 | 1 | | 1/15/2008 | Rainbow, CA |
| | Trinity-Bible-Church | 975 | 1 | 2 | | 9/26/2007 | Fredericksburg, VA |
| | 1860s-Texas-rehabnew... | 890 | 22 | 89 | Wednesday | Boerne, TX |
| | FlagholeRoad | 873 | 2 | 6 | | 10/25/2007 | Franklin, NH |
| | 95821-Addition | 870 | 4 | 8 | | 3/16/2008 | Sacramento, CA |
| | Kanak-ICF--Virginia | 859 | 9 | 0 | | 3/26/2008 | Fredericksburg, VA |
| | SchnabelEstate | 836 | 2 | 4 | | 11/16/2007 | Avon, IN |
| | Cajun-Homestead | 790 | 10 | 71 | Monday | Lafayette, LA |
| | Green-for-Dean | 779 | 1 | 0 | | 11/10/2007 | San Jose, CA |
| | EurekaHouse-ICF | 751 | 7 | 15 | | 3/6/2008 | Berkeley, CA |
| | Lake-Pleasant | 733 | 2 | 1 | | 11/14/2007 | Erie, PA |
| | TimberframeSIPs-in-C... | 728 | 4 | 4 | | 5/1/2008 | Arnold, CA |
| | Odd | 669 | 1 | 0 | | 12/8/2007 | Boston, MA |
| | Casa-Nostra | 632 | 2 | 3 | | 12/2/2007 | Bangor, PA |
| | Hawaiian-Bungalo | 631 | 7 | 45 | Monday | Holualoa, HI |
| | inniagara | 630 | 1 | 0 | | 11/24/2007 | Niagara Falls, ON |
| | EurekaMT-Timberframe | 604 | 6 | 3 | | 1/24/2008 | Eureka, MT |
| | DomeSweetDome | 586 | 1 | 1 | | 1/1/2008 | Charleston, SC |
| | Tanglewood | 581 | 24 | 23 | Thursday | Colorado Springs, CO |
| | AboveTheAppleTree | 533 | 1 | 0 | | 12/8/2007 | La Farge, WI |
| | lance | 513 | 3 | 0 | | 12/29/2007 | Grand Prairie, TX |
| | BobDonna | 511 | 1 | 0 | | 12/12/2007 | Sacramento, CA |
| | Greg--Kathys-New-Hou... | 503 | 2 | 0 | | 4/3/2008 | Barryton, MI |
| | Collier-Home | 480 | 1 | 1 | | 2/1/2008 | Little Rock, AR |
| | Casa-Bella | 447 | 1 | 0 | | 1/14/2008 | Pueblo West, CO |
| | Schrammelot | 424 | 1 | 6 | | 2/2/2008 | Pierson, FL |
| | JourneyBackHome | 393 | 1 | 0 | | 2/3/2008 | Oviedo, FL |
| | HillsideVA | 391 | 1 | 0 | | 1/19/2008 | Ruckersville, VA |
| | Paul58 | 377 | 1 | 0 | | 1/19/2008 | Warrenton, VA |
| | SEAlabamaHome | 359 | 1 | 0 | | 2/6/2008 | Enterprise, AL |
| | Cyberdoc-Residence | 359 | 2 | 0 | | 4/25/2008 | San Diego, CA |
| | ericdc | 344 | 3 | 1 | | 3/8/2008 | Uniontown, PA |
| | Naperville-Webster-S... | 320 | 1 | 0 | | 2/12/2008 | Bartlett, IL |
| | Our-House | 282 | 1 | 0 | | 2/24/2008 | Miami, FL |
| | Quail-Bluff-Pasco | 257 | 7 | 21 | | 4/30/2008 | Pasco, WA |
| | AlaskaICFREMOTEHouse | 181 | 8 | 5 | | 5/2/2008 | Wasilla, AK |
| | Off-Grid | 181 | 3 | 1 | | 4/20/2008 | Florissant, CO |
| | Katabatic-Wind | 175 | 3 | 0 | | 3/19/2008 | Huntsville, AL |
| | The-Ridges | 148 | 1 | 0 | | 3/23/2008 | Logan, UT |
| | beamanhouse | 135 | 1 | 0 | | 3/27/2008 | Manistique, MI |
| | Alvin-House | 135 | 2 | 0 | | 4/14/2008 | LaPorte, TX |
| | Penetang-Craftsman | 134 | 2 | 4 | | 4/14/2008 | Cambridge, ON |
| | Mayfield-House | 127 | 1 | 0 | | 3/31/2008 | Mayfield, UT |
| | dmaceld | 113 | 11 | 69 | Today @ 9:34 PM | Nampa, ID |
| | Fortune-House | 99 | 1 | 0 | | 4/17/2008 | Mooresville, NC |
| | Nimmerrichters-Fores... | 88 | 1 | 0 | | 4/2/2008 | Waldorf, MD |
| | Capernall-House | 67 | 3 | 2 | Wednesday | Belleville, MI |
| | dream-home-ohio | 48 | 2 | 0 | Monday | zanesville, OH |
| | Hidden-Valley-Texas | 46 | 1 | 0 | Wednesday | Southlake, TX |
| | StansTLH | 8 | 1 | 5 | Today @ 10:49 PM | Tehachapi, CA |
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What was your net worth as a couple before you owner-built?| < $100,000 | | 26.15% (17/65) | | $100,000 - $200,000 | | 20.00% (13/65) | | $200,000 - $300,000 | | 13.85% (9/65) | | $300,000 - $400,000 | | 7.69% (5/65) | | $400,000 - $500,000 | | 9.23% (6/65) | | $500,000 - $1,000,000 | | 12.31% (8/65) | | $1,000,000 - $2,000,000 | | 9.23% (6/65) | | $2,000,000 - $3,000,000 | | 0.00% (0/65) | | >$3,000,000 | | 1.54% (1/65) | Average: $446,154 Click to expand...
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Latest 5-Star Post
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You can move a post to the front page simply by voting! Has anyone tried using clean-fill-wanted.com or any other "dirt" website? We are going to be excavating about 700 CY for a basement and have a second lot that we could stockpile the dirt on. We were hoping to be able to sell/give away the dirt to someone who needs it, and ideally will haul it off. (of course)
It seems like there is a much greater need for people to get rid of dirt than to get dirt. I mean, is the earth growing in size due to the amount of dirt generated or what?!
Seriously tho
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Previous Owner-Builder
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What was the average price quoted you to build your design? Highest price? Dayna in Riverton, UT said: Without lot or finance charges $110/sq.ft --High $115/sq.ft. Eric in seaville, NJ said: Price from GC was $210 to $220 sq ft Mike in Marion, OH said: $380,000 was only general contractor bid we got on the complete package. However that would not have been anywhere close to the price had we had him build this house the way we did. We upgraded nearly everything by doing the sub-contracting ourselves. I did far more self work than I ever imagined I would do before the project started. I just kept completing work so I would start on the next task. As long as I was on time I kept doing the self work. Roger in Petoskey, MI said: I only got one price for a general to build it. That was about 15% more than I did it for and didn't include quite a few upgrades that I ended up getting. John in Port Republic, MD said: $790,000 Kenneth in Lees Summit, MO said: $350K before the upgrades got added on (I only got one bid). Upgrades we added on included stainless steel appliances, all hard surface floors, corian countertops, custom cabinetry, composite deck. Yep those general's make a bunch of money... Penn in Pittsboro, NC said: $47,000 average $52,000 highest
Brian in South Burlington, VT said: I never used a GC Bob in Robinson, PA said: Avg. $230,000 just for the structure Highest was $250,000 Evan in Middleville, MI said: Dont know didn't get any Brian in Manvel, TX said: 400k
486k Jedda in Brighton, ON said: We did not get quotes from GCs. I will next time. Craig in Green Bay, WI said: About $350,000.
Karl in Reno, NV said: $$$$$ definitely in hampton, VA said: 100.00 sq ft Aimee in Kalamazoo, MI said: Range: $280-310 Lori in Sparks, NV said: We didn't get a bid. We wanted to save as much as possible. Brian in Melbourne, FL said: none. Dan in ATLANTA, GA said: 95K Jeff in Provo, UT said: No one was below $400,000 and that was not including the lot. Richard in malabar, FL said: N/A Max in OKC, OK said: 180,000
230,000 Karlie in Ogden, UT said: $250,000 Kathlyn said: didn't get general bids John in Erie, CO said: Actual cost plus $100k, minimum.
Mark in Provo, UT said: I think $115 a foot was the average at the time, and we heard up to $150. (We built it for $65/sf.)
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Need to do a soil compaction on about 70'x70' flat graded pad. Contractors are talking about 3' lifts.And a soil compaction report.How much would it cost to me in today's prices?I know, the soil report could be as little as $300 and as much as $2000.However, I have no idea on soil compaction routine.Any help?Thanks.
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<WARNING- This is REALLY long>Sunday, May 11, 20087:26:27 PMHello,Let me introduce myself and give a bit of background on my project.My name is Stan S. and I am going to start building my own custom log home. The TLH in my blog title is for Tehachapi Log Home. I figured it would be easier than spelling it out, what a long URL that would make. Anyways, I started out on this journey, and what a ride it has been so far, about November of 2004. I remodeled and sold my childhood home and moved
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Construction Bargain Strategies
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170. K-Mart for Ceiling Fans and Doorknobs
The Home Essentials brand they now carry isn't as good but is lower-priced than the Hunter fans they used to have. For some reason, they always have much better door hardware prices there than the home center stores and door places we tried.
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Thought from the Book
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Quality improves in many ways because of your supervision. You make
certain that implementation of the house corresponds to its use. For
example, since you know how each room is accessed you can ensure that
light switches are placed on the correct side of doorways, and not
blocked by open doors. You see that electrical outlets and phone jacks
are placed where they will be convenient to your use. You catch doorways
that may interfere with planned stairs or windows that would interfere
with future walls.
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You Get What You Pay For?
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by Mark A. Smith
I've grown to despise the expression "You get what you pay for."
It's a favorite of general contractors who condemn owner-building. It's
spoken with some gravity as if it were a higher truth known to the wise.
But it just isn't true. We see people saving 35% by owner-building every day of the week. They have the same house, the same
kitchen sink, the same garage door, the same sliding window as the
person who used a contractor and spent 35% more.
What is it about that kitchen sink that makes it better when you've
spent $338 instead of $220 like Elaine and I did? Or heaven forbid, if you
paid $450 or $600, the listed "retail price"? When a contractor is running
the job, you have an excellent chance of paying retail for house
components, although they are widely available at deep discounts.
Yes, you pay more for a general contractor and what does it get
you? A better design? No, that should be the province of the designer
working closely with you. Better quality? Not if you are checking the work
that goes into the job each day. The average custom contractor provides
on-site supervision only a couple of hours a week when you're building.
Expertise? You can hire an independent inspector for that who will
provide objective input. Peace of mind? Yes, if you are clueless about the
process.
But you won't be clueless. A successful owner-builder plans
thoroughly before breaking ground. You wind up knowing your house and
what's in it better than any third party can. Along the way you resolve
design issues to your satisfaction and see better ways and better
components to meet your needs.
The reward for this is not well understood. You pay less, but you
get the same valuation as a contractor-built house. On an average home,
you would save more than $50,000. Mind you, this is pure equity, it is tax-
free wealth.
So, did you get what you paid for? You paid less, but got much
more. I prefer the saying, "The best things in life are free."
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