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By Tavis in Stevensville, MT on 3/4/2007


We will be building a 1,650 sq ft one-story home (with the same sqft unfinished basement) this summer. I have a very reputable guy that I am considering (and waiting on a bid from) to do my ICF foundation and the framing. I asked if he was open to me working with him, he said that it would be okay. We will agree on my hourly wage and deduct it from the price upon completion.

I have a fair bit of framing experience, ~2 years; have built a hotel, church, 5-6 homes and  framing on my recent remodel job.

Here's my question(s):

  1. Am I asking for trouble?
  2. Or can we line out a written agreement on what exactly he will pay me for? These are things that I might be issues
  •    I will be living on site in my trailer and basically will be available to work on the house 6 out of every 8 days ( the perfect O-B schedule).
  •    I am going to be highly motivated to finish ASAP and plan to work my butt off.
  •    I may actually end up doing a lot more work than he may think I can get done (i.e. I'll be putting up sheeting until it gets dark, nailing everything off, putting on clips etc., you get the point.

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By Netie in Salt Lake City, UT on 3/8/2007


Good to hear you're only weeks a way from breaking ground (other post). Does that mean your framer came in with his bid? Curious as to what you've decided.

Personally, I'd be super specific on the work for your framer idea - he pays his guys $10-$15/hr? - wouldn't make(save) more money with a phone glued to your ear, trying to chase down deals and following up on the insane amount of details that you're about to encounter?

Now, when I first saw your post, I thought - why hire him to do the ICF at all? If you're going to be there 6 hours a day and the blocks appear to go up fast? Just hire him for the real framing... and that's b/c it's what our plan has become.

What is your thought process on the division of ICF to traditional framing? Concrete too expensive in your area? Or is framing labor too cheap to pass up? Bounce some ideas my way. For us it's the number of hours spent checking the framer's work during the whole house framing vs. the number of hours constructing and filling the forms.

 


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