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By Dale in Richland, AZ on 2/1/2007


I am trying to consolidate some of the topics here so newcomers can find things easier. If you have any suggestions let me know.

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By Guy in San Luis Obispo, CA on 3/6/2007


Hi Dale, I was wondering if you and Mark Smith could create a 'green' links area, possibly following the CSI masterformat or at least categorized by phase of construction.  The links under resources are too numerous to sift through to find earth-friendly and appropriate systems.  Cheers, Guy.

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By Dale in Richland, AZ on 3/6/2007


You're asking for something more than just traipsing thru the mental cobwebs? It is sure nice to have a long-term, on-going challenge that will benefit the whole group.

It will be a  large project and I would like everyone to offer up a contribution or two. This could be a valuable resource  for everyone since its so easy to miss stuff that doesn't make the national news or isn't on your daily "to-do-list".

Actually this could be a nice attachment to the "alternative materials" special report.

Send me a PM and we can maybe work out a basic format to stick everything in because the new CSI format is probably too long for our needs.

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By Michael Penn in Dripping Springs, TX on 3/8/2007


Can you give a little background--what is the CSI format?  Where can we read about it?
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By Dale in Richland, AZ on 3/8/2007


Construction documents are often broken down by groups of products by the specifier whose job is to find a company and exact piece of equipment to identify as "this is what we want, or something equal to it" So they go through tons of literature and build a personal database which they typically rely on. Most architectural and engineering firms specialize, say hospitals, Wal-Mart, or gas stations.

CSI is the organization that established a standard format for writing all these specifications, so if one needs a left-hand steel door with auto closure &2 hour fire rating it can easily be compared to all umpteen manufacturers who make that type of door.

the basic masterformat this is a 170 pages. The division numbers and titles are on page 9

a .pdf about green specs green format  this about the challenge of presenting information in a usable form


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By Guy in San Luis Obispo, CA on 3/8/2007


Wow Dale, what  a can of worms this can become.  Let's skip a formal CSI approach and maybe just stick with a sequence of construction categorization for the sake of OBs.  I just want somewhere where I can post links to some fantastic green/sustainability websites by some form of category.  I don't want to make it a tremendous task though.  Cheers, Guy.

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By Guy in San Luis Obispo, CA on 3/8/2007


Michael, CSI stands for Construction Specifications Institute and is a complex system used by architects and builders to assign a numerical code to the many parts that go into a structure.  Kind of like the library code that categorizes books by subject.  It is really of little value to O-B's since it is overkill information.  Check out sweets.com though if you want to get a taste of it.  Cheers, Guy.  P.S.  know anyone that would like to buy 2 lots outside of Odessa? 

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By Dale in Richland, AZ on 3/9/2007


If we want to make this is easy to read, how about following the format of a basic set of residential construction documents? Have other suggestions? Do we rank things? by sustainability, cost, availability?

1.   SITE
2.   FLOOR PLAN
3.    ELEVATIONS
4.    SECTIONS
5.    FOUNDATION   (including drainage & termite protection)
6.    FRAMING
7.    PLUMBING
8.    MECHANICAL
9.    ELECTRICAL
10.    INTERIOR FINISHES (paint, cabinets, flooring, counter tops, hardware)
11.    SPECIALTY   (appliances, a/v, SMART, solar electric)

Every one can contribute and I'll keep the master list managed and up to date.  If this gets to be too long a list we can decide later if we should break it down into separate lists.

One thing that needs to be addressed and discussed is techniques or systems rather than materials and equipment. For example home-made solar hot water with d'mand and tankless back up on a structured plumbing layout.

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By Guy in San Luis Obispo, CA on 3/12/2007


Dale, not sure if sections is a good category.  It would probably be redundant to other parts of the plans unless there is something you're thinking that I'm not catching.  Guy.

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By Dale in Richland, AZ on 3/12/2007


Was thinking "sections' would be where we could catch things that don't really show in a plan view. Mostly the stuff inside the wall that might be difficult to label under elevations or interior finishes. Am open on this, so whatever we can make most informative. Guess to all the non-readers of CD's it might be confusing.

We can always change it later, either add or delete depending on our starting point.

Also I think we can tie this into product reviews so additional comments can develop without cluttering the list. There is a section called "alternative techniques" which we can edit to suit things better.

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By Guy in San Luis Obispo, CA on 3/16/2007


Dale, not to belabor this too much, but I like what PATH website set up as categories in their search box.  Check it out at htoolbase.org/TechInventory.  I'm sorry I'm not able to keep current with your posts, I'm busy studying to get my Real Estate license here to supplement my CAD work.  Cheers, Guy.

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By Dale in Richland, AZ on 3/16/2007


Thanks for the feedback. Toolbase has 3 lists that could be applicable.

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By Dale in Richland, AZ on 3/24/2007


The Green Building Specifier is now available. With a separate discussion area.

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