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Posted by Lynnette in Orlando, FL on 8/2/2007

As the title says, the framing is beginning to come to an end. I had hoped that the framing crew would have been done about two weeks before now, but it has been raining very hard almost daily, and they seem to end their day pretty early as well. I go out to the property to check on the day's progress at about 4:00 or 4:30 every day, and by the time I get there, the place is deserted. I have caught them out there only a few times in the last month that they have been working. 

A recurring theme seems to be: "this is a very complicated house." We have heard this from several people such as the truss engineers, our architect, and of course the framers. This, in combination with the size of the house, seems to be the primary reason this particular build is going somewhat too slow. We are confident that once the framing and dry-in are complete, the complication factor won't slow us down any more. We warned them this morning that the house better be dried-in before this weekend, which only gives them today and tomorrow. All this time and rain have caused some of our lumber and plywood to not look so good, and I have spent too much money on all of it to have to replace anything because they are just not moving fast enough.

The framing company owner went out to the house this morning for the first time in, I guess, three weeks or so, and told the crew that they would not leave there until it was done. We did have a nailing inspection and a sheeting inspection this morning and passed. The crew thought they would leave after the inspector left, and they had another thought coming. Boss man said not so fast, you have more work to do, and you will work until it is done. He realizes that this rain is beginning to damage pretty much everything they have worked on and it will cost him to replace anything. 

The inspector also said that we could have had a partial inspection and had half of the house dried-in. We told him that we had called about that, and the county said that it had to be all or nothing. He informed us that the people they have manning those calls really follow the rules to the letter and don't realize that a house this size needs to be an exception, because it takes so long to get it to the point that a complete inspection is due. This frustrates him and us equally.

I hate the fact that it has been raining inside the house through all the cracks in the plywood sheets on the roof, and there is nothing we can do about it. We will need to let it sit and completely dry out before we can do anything after they lay the felt down, because it is just too wet. The windows sure can't be installed until then, because that moisture will be trapped inside and we will be sealing that house really well with spray insulation. 

So, as far as we can tell, the framers should be done with the dry-in this week and tying up all other loose ends in the beginning of next week. Then we can get the HVAC, plumbing, and electrical going. We already applied for our roofing permit and will be putting the shingles on as soon as we are able to. I have been meeting with propane companies to get the final prices on installing a tank and running the lines. I believe we will be going with Sam's Gas. Their guy really impressed my hubby and he feels the most comfortable with him. The lady from Heritage Propane seemed to have dollar signs in her eyes once she saw the house and I have a feeling her estimate will be way inflated. There are a few pictures to show.


Posted by Lisa in Groveland, FL on 8/2/2007

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Lynnette, the house is looking great, and big, (hopefully without meaning to sound patronizing), very well done. Just a word to the wise. I have interviewed practically all the local gas people, are you renting or buying a tank??

If buying, AmeriGas looked good; if renting, Heritage Propane were competitive, but as they were going to take weeks to review and sign my contract and gave me the runaround as well as use subs, I got the gas piping done by All Glass in Apopka. I dealt with David Miller, they also supplied our DV fire. I also met with Sam's Gas and was impressed, but on further investigation their gas prices were horrendous.

Gas prices vary between $2.39 and $5.00 gallon for liquid propane, some companies have start-up prices. Sam's Gas were not as high as $5 per gallon, but they all hedge that question, which sets off alarm bells with me. I was told it was about $3.25 but presently was around $3.89. On a 250-gallon tank, that can make a huge difference in your annual bills. Heritage Propane was $2.85 and I think AmeriGas was also competitive. If I remember correctly, they had a good start-up price for the initial fill at $2.39, but thereafter their price went up. However, they do not do the piping; getting that done elsewhere bought me time on making that decision after last minute hassles with propane. I am now dealing with Jack Bolderson over Dan Vines, who has a habit of continually upping the price, not just with us but also with our neighbor. That said, it may still be cost effective to go with Heritage Propane. We'll see.

Hope that's of some help.


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