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Barrel-Race1,16421620
Today @ 8:35 PMHouston, TX

NorthPoleHome23,036311170
5/5/2013North Pole, AK

TheHoskensProject50,0531353913
4/22/2013Dome-ville, central, FL

Tanglewood63,2397382,13842
4/20/2013Colorado Springs, CO

Dream-Build-Austin-T...531300
4/17/2013Austin, TX

The-Last-Rodeo4,81121100
4/17/2013Angel Fire, NM

Family-Affair6,186300
12/26/2012

Eschete-Dome16,99830530
12/24/2012Lafayette, LA

HudsonHouse3,855200
12/22/2012Omaha, NE

Seven-Peaks-Faswall-...27,869452981
12/11/2012Graeagle, CA

OwensNewHome48,9271023810
11/25/2012Chandler, AZ

Miami-FL-country-hom...2,114210
11/20/2012Miami, FL

Beaver-Creek-Ranch24,441182920
11/16/2012Hayfork, CA

ChapelHillNCBob2,275110
10/23/2012Chapel Hill, NC

The-Skimino-Bluff2,8023130
10/13/2012Williamsburg, VA

Octagon-in-Glencoe-C...40,731144110
10/8/2012Glencoe , CA

nateshomemtpeakview1,815100
9/29/2012

sherman14,601221560
9/27/2012Downers Grove, IL

Omaha3,936380
9/13/2012Omaha, NE

Holy-Hill-House10,46835530
8/27/2012Richfield, WI

Omega-CEO2,429110
8/13/2012Manassas, VA

JayHouse7,0687190
6/22/2012Sebastopol, CA

30223,80723770
5/20/2012Belfair, WA

SunburnStateHome3,136110
3/6/2012Charlotte County, FL

VICTOR-MONTANA4,514110
2/22/2012Victor, MT

Houston-720125963,744100
1/21/2012Houston, TX

Workshop11,836630
1/8/2012Florissant, CO

Our-simple-home8,053223080
12/5/2011LaPorte, IN

ICF-Construction12,948500
11/11/2011Elkridge, MD

Little-Help-from-my-...8,56211150
11/4/2011Rockwall, TX

YaNYca10,761810
10/29/2011Boston, MA

The-Man-Refuge7,230310
10/19/2011San Antonio, TX

mckernanmc8,103320
10/6/2011Amite, LA

1860s-Texas-rehabnew...37,281431910
9/26/2011Boerne, TX

Large-Family-Compoun...4,489200
9/23/2011Covington, GA

Woodchuck-Ridge6,877480
9/12/2011Akron, OH

Forever-Home-Sweet-H...13,96034310
8/24/2011Issaquah, WA

Clarksville-MD5,654200
8/22/2011Eldersburg, MD

steve-n-carolyn12,5834140
8/21/2011Sun City, CA

Old-York5,013200
7/27/2011Bridgewater, NJ

Carriage-House12,59820282
7/24/2011Ft. Collins, CO

DomeSweetDome16,39118291
6/4/2011Suffolk, VA

Goodpasture16,522562880
5/28/2011Westminster, CO

TheCastle6,543160
5/25/2011Cheshire, CT

Marks-Log-Cabin10,574392210
5/12/2011Altoona, PA

Bill13,220100
5/4/2011Tucson, AZ

Mueller-Dream-Home5,819100
4/15/2011

Oklahoma-Steel7,521650
4/13/2011Minco, OK

DutchG5,417200
4/5/2011

HiddenInOhio7,0589130
4/1/2011Elyria, OH

MagnoliaHouse5,797100
3/29/2011Houston, TX

Buffaloader9,437200
1/11/2011Valley Center, KS

SouthernEcoHome19,92820210
1/9/2011Blacksburg, VA

Austrian-Chalet10,100780
1/2/2011Twin Lakes, CO

Vista-Ridge9,36821660
12/21/2010Swanton, OH

OurFarmstead20,088601890
12/10/2010Pennsylvania

AirparkHome-Remodel24,12022460
11/8/2010Hillsboro, OR

Holloway7,844200
11/7/2010Petersburg, VA

Building-Our-Lakefro...6,728110
11/5/2010Piscataway, NJ

SunburyGalena-Build6,127100
11/3/2010Galena, OH

BUILDING-OUR-GREEN-D...6,855800
11/2/2010Pattison, TX

RR-Homestead17,37431740
10/26/2010Janesville, CA

Casa-Paradiso-Vieque...6,836200
10/19/2010Chelsea, MA

Millerbuild7,9565110
10/1/2010Carstairs, AB

VilanoBeachCasa-de-S...17,113381170
9/20/2010Saint Augustine, FL

Delisledigs8,348300
9/16/2010Jacksonville, FL

h20dave8,204430
9/10/2010Waterloo, AL

Mountain-Idyl7,951900
9/9/2010Asheville, NC

High-over-Lake-Granb...10,87012230
9/8/2010Granbury, TX

Homestead30,54564850
9/8/2010Smithville, MO

philandjan8,665100
9/2/2010

Commons7,089200
8/21/2010Atascocita, TX

Our-First-OB-home7,339300
7/27/2010Gardner, KS

Louisiana-Mediterran...16,337311870
7/21/2010Sunset, LA

Crows-Nest6,855100
7/20/2010

Patterson-Project7,513400
7/16/2010John's Island, SC

Hidden-Meadow-Home9,1482100
7/13/2010Murrieta, CA

New-house-in-Selah-W...7,156140
7/4/2010Belfair, WA

Arnold-CA-Alpine-cha...16,11722100
7/2/2010Arnold, CA

Working-Wilton35,339343010
6/16/2010Wilton, NH

JJ-Residence6,551100
6/7/2010San Antonio, TX

Thompson-Valley-Home7,833330
6/6/2010Monticello, FL

Naperville-Webster-S...20,5222360
5/21/2010Naperville, IL

Gary--Suzi7,735100
5/7/2010

crystal-falls-home22,76020270
5/5/2010Cedar Park, TX

Kapoho-Retirement-Ho...7,866130
5/4/2010Santa Ana, CA

NC--New-Construction7,614100
5/3/2010

Collins-on-Cobblesto...8,11021910
4/30/2010Waynesville, NC

Dwight--Colleen-Hart...8,609130
4/30/2010Vaughn, WA

Riley24,15532950
4/29/2010Cave Creek, AZ

The-New-Ries-Homeste...11,01319980
4/21/2010Polk/Richfield/Erin/Hartford, WI

The-Season6,683130
4/10/2010Mount Airy, NC

The-Naas-Place7,100200
3/30/2010Pittsburg, CA

Phil-and-Lauras-home10,099400
3/20/2010Tulsa, OK

Southport-NC-Home13,087201281
3/18/2010Southport, NC

Loris16,380110
3/11/2010

Seaton-Station7,189140
3/10/2010Siloam Springs, AR

Backwoods-Project10,925390
3/4/2010Jeffersonville, GA

ICF-in-Ann-Arbor22,342293710
1/25/2010Dexter, MI

DancingPines8,009200
1/25/2010Clinton, LA

Log-Cabin7,589150
1/23/2010indianapolis, IN

The-Kinzel-House6,870100
1/21/2010New Orleans, LA

PahrumpProject13,7805390
1/17/2010Spokane, WA

TheBeachHouse11,39913200
1/16/2010Shoreline, WA

Artist-Haven-Home11,709970
1/13/2010Kansas City, MO

SOPHIA--SAMUELDELAWA...12,84211310
12/2/2009Smyrna, DE

Plant-City-Craftsman13,8824100
11/22/2009Plant City, FL

WestermanFarm8,330130
11/10/2009Dickson, TN

Shane15,311600
10/31/2009San Antonio, TX

ADCountryHome9,4901130
10/31/2009Fort Worth, TX

ICF-Keller-Tx46,838321220
10/6/2009Roanoke, TX

digs15,773100
9/30/2009Tracy City, TN

threegables16,221201340
9/29/2009Hartland, WI

LittleLakeCorner63,6861016040
9/29/2009Groveland, FL

Utah-Casa8,403200
9/28/2009Saratoga Springs, UT

Tornado-Reconstructi...8,166800
9/24/2009Port Neches, TX

toolehouse43,617891450
9/20/2009Reno, NV

Bobs-Blog47,974614140
9/16/2009New Florence, PA

Blessings7,038100
9/11/2009farmville, NC

Schrammelot12,4367900
9/11/2009Pierson, FL

PennsmithLostValleyT...30,588552150
9/9/2009Dripping Springs, TX

River-House7,518220
9/7/2009Clinton, NJ

SantaFe-in-AJ7,360100
8/28/2009Apache Junction, AZ

Dennis-Dream-Home24,028385050
8/27/2009Readington Twp, NJ

Massive-Undertaking8,5551100
8/26/2009Wimauma, FL

Lafayette7,347200
8/11/2009Cramerton, NC

Dream-site-on-the-La...7,986200
8/5/2009La Porte, TX

Williams-New-Home-Si...7,185110
8/2/2009Windsor, NC

Cobblestone-Lane7,487100
7/30/2009Great Falls, MT

PensacolaBeachHouse7,306110
6/22/2009Gulf Breeze, FL

12YEARSINTHEPLANNING7,832120
6/16/2009LADSON, SC

The-Cortes-Adventure13,348320
6/13/2009Snowflake, AZ

Steinys-Hideaway7,771200
6/9/2009Venice, CA

DreamHome25,646261900
6/7/2009Orlando, FL

CastleHeims16,78721590
6/5/2009Cedar Rapids, IA

Utah-Warehouse7,108220
5/20/2009Fairview, UT

Where-to-start8,898610
5/16/2009Lemoore, CA

Castle-Rock-Lakehous...13,00310840
4/27/2009Necedah, WI

Oleg17,105360
4/22/2009San Diego, CA

MoeCompound7,147340
4/9/2009Camano Island, WA

Huckleberry-Home7,544200
4/8/2009Williamstown, NJ

Vonk15,603100
4/7/2009Zeeland, MI

Small-Timber-Frame11,315110
4/2/2009Central Mass, MA

EatonLoch-Haven8,113110
4/1/2009Roanoke, VA

windowsnsiding7,421110
3/28/2009Long Island, NY

Arkansas-First-Timer20,78039880
3/27/2009Trumann, AR

Back-Home-In-Crisp9,281111510
3/22/2009Ennis, TX

Victor--Susan-0816,606211210
3/17/2009Ruckersville, VA

Rick-and-Tinas-dream...8,634120
3/14/2009Auburndale, FL

Keener-Road9,9334100
3/11/2009Elizabethtown, PA

NC-Newbie7,950100
3/10/2009Boone, NC

MadisonGA8,0621130
2/26/2009Madison, GA

Techbuilt-Scammed9,372100
2/25/2009Rebew, LA

choanne8317,247100
2/9/2009charlotte, NC

WilliamsinVegas29,885301190
1/29/2009Henderson, NV

PhilesBryant9,100260
1/20/2009graham, WA

MortgageSmart7,422100
1/19/2009Cocoa, FL

QuarterlyHouse50,961136990
1/12/2009Orlando, FL

RabbitRun16,132311690
1/11/2009Afton, VA

Sonave-Sunsets7,587120
1/9/2009Yucca, AZ

Heart-of-PA12,1759160
1/6/2009Lewistown, PA

Krusehome8,411200
12/27/2008Lake City, FL

BrunkHouseAlmaKansas11,465260
12/26/2008Garden Grove, CA

Raider-Bills-Tenn-Ho...11,5656320
12/22/2008Largo, FL

Andel-Ranch24,186334020
12/17/2008Rogers, TX

Elijahs-Home8,757460
12/6/2008Vero Beach, FL

ranch-house7,605100
11/25/2008springfield, IL

Howard-Georgia-Retir...11,708670
11/9/2008Harlem, GA

The-Woods-Journal8,292110
11/6/2008Doraville, GA

StansTLH12,2421090
11/1/2008Tehachapi, CA

Kevin--Kerrys-Dream8,576350
10/17/2008Northvale, NJ

Katabatic-Wind8,979470
10/16/2008Huntsville, AL

Elmhurst-Modern10,591120
10/14/2008elmhurst, IL

Accessible-House8,5243100
10/14/2008Munford, TN

Cherry-Valley-Vista7,749120
10/5/2008Duvall, WA

Jon-and-Mollys-House13,800150
9/25/2008Ellicott City, MD

Proctor-ICF8,703110
9/25/2008Fredericksburg, VA

Hawaiian-Bungalo14,457111020
9/23/2008Holualoa, HI

Pete--Rhiannon9,792430
9/19/2008Springfield, MO

2008-Cedar-Ln13,35414350
9/19/2008Seaville, NJ

dmaceld16,51914880
9/16/2008Nampa, ID

Help-with-Goulds-and...9,744100
9/16/2008tampa, FL

Consulting7,362100
9/2/2008Orlando, FL

AlaskaICFREMOTEHouse12,87719380
8/17/2008Wasilla, AK

NC-Pond-House8,486320
8/4/2008Wilmington, NC

MargaritaVilla8,146240
8/4/2008Raleigh, NC

Latest-update9,4128100
8/4/2008Sierra Vista, AZ

ANDREA7,936400
8/2/2008Dallas, TX

The-Ridges10,28311130
7/31/2008Logan, UT

Avenida-Del-Sol11,80913520
7/31/2008Peoria, AZ

dream-home-ohio8,314600
7/30/2008Zanesville, OH

Penetang-Craftsman7,857360
7/27/2008Penetanguishene, ON

Tristan--8,152600
7/25/2008Lebanon, NJ

Dreamy-Design-in-Glo...12,637100
7/9/2008Clifton, VA

need-help-Jim8,406110
7/8/2008Bandon, OR

deltona-fl-custom-ho...9,3164140
7/6/2008Deltona Beach, FL

Ingraham-House-Chape...8,523200
6/29/2008Cary, NC

famborgie7,266100
6/26/2008Lockhart, TX

95821-Addition17,2047140
6/24/2008Sacramento, CA

Cajun-Homestead14,00212930
6/22/2008Lafayette, LA

West-Texas-Ranch-Hou...9,636110
6/18/2008Andrews, TX

Quail-Bluff-Pasco9,3139290
6/10/2008Pasco, WA

Spyders-Web7,379100
6/10/2008Norman, OK

mike-and-tori-darnle...9,875510
6/2/2008Rainbow, CA

Lin-Washington7,599100
5/29/2008Fresno, CA

Capernall-House8,227420
5/15/2008Belleville, MI

Hidden-Valley-Texas7,737100
5/7/2008Southlake, TX

cosdreamhome36,581731470
5/5/2008Colorado Springs, CO

Sowle-Family-House10,191590
4/29/2008South Burlington, VT

Cyberdoc-Residence8,160200
4/25/2008San Diego, CA

Fortune-House8,042100
4/17/2008Mooresville, NC

Joeb19,778400
4/15/2008Oakland, FL

Alvin-House8,078200
4/14/2008LaPorte, TX

Thomas-Home--Raintre...17,509271800
4/9/2008Lee's Summit, MO

Greg--Kathys-New-Hou...9,307200
4/3/2008Barryton, MI

Where-is-Waldo24,70544830
4/2/2008Marion, OH

Nimmerrichters-Fores...7,226100
4/2/2008Waldorf, MD

Mayfield-House7,897100
3/31/2008Mayfield, UT

beamanhouse7,722100
3/27/2008Manistique, MI

Kanak-ICF--Virginia11,869900
3/26/2008Fredericksburg, VA

Sheldon-St11,124300
3/21/2008Orlando, FL

Bert-18,051310
3/20/2008Southern, CA

Our-Ohio-ICF-home18,49120270
3/20/2008Mansfield, OH

ericdc8,239310
3/8/2008Uniontown, PA

EurekaHouse-ICF11,3965150
3/6/2008Berkeley, CA

Superstition-Views12,196281600
3/6/2008Mesa, AZ

Blue-Springs-Project9,8608230
2/24/2008Broken Arrow, OK

Our-House7,462100
2/24/2008Miami, FL

httpownerbuilderbook...10,192830
2/19/2008Clayton, NY

JourneyBackHome7,581100
2/3/2008Oviedo, FL

Collier-Home9,666110
2/1/2008Little Rock, AR

DDs-ICF9,231330
1/27/2008New Smyrna Bch, FL

EurekaMT-Timberframe8,9841430
1/24/2008Augusta, MI

The-Larnerd-House10,5005210
1/21/2008Newport News, VA

Casa-Bella8,356100
1/14/2008Pueblo West, CO

Gordon-Lake-House12,33817510
1/3/2008Oakland, IA

STEPHANIES-DREAM9,30717570
12/30/2007Lower Burrell, PA

Florida-Waterfront-C...11,736310
12/29/2007PB, FL

6158-in-Montgomery-T...8,440410
12/23/2007Conroe, TX

ClearwaterHills10,653260
12/14/2007Paradise Valley, AZ

BobDonna6,958100
12/12/2007Sacramento, CA

AboveTheAppleTree7,256100
12/8/2007La Farge, WI

Casa-Nostra9,188230
12/2/2007Bangor, PA

Building-the-Dream-i...10,665700
11/29/2007Gladstone, OR

Ingram-Fleming-ICF-H...12,308480
11/29/2007Plant City, FL

inniagara6,575100
11/24/2007Niagara Falls, ON

SchnabelEstate7,742240
11/16/2007Avon, IN

WeAreBuildingAgain16,41627560
11/15/2007Orlando, FL

Lake-Pleasant7,526210
11/14/2007Erie, PA

Green-for-Dean7,673100
11/10/2007San Jose, CA

The-Ponderosa9,2888220
11/4/2007Perry, OK

FlagholeRoad7,766260
10/25/2007Franklin, NH

Beckynray8,706300
10/24/2007Powhatan, VA

Spicewood-TX9,340330
10/20/2007Austin, TX

Powderhorn19,981481760
10/4/2007Florida

Luray-VA-1stTimeBuil...11,803730
10/4/2007Luray, VA

kittyfhughesnet7,503250
9/27/2007Noblesville, IN

Scott-Family7,780100
9/25/2007Trinity, AL

Taking-the-Plunge10,3906180
9/18/2007Springfield, OH

RozBuildingAdventure8,016100
9/14/2007San Pablo, CA

Helpful-Tips8,712200
9/13/2007Encinitas, CA

Poplar-Creek-Farm9,9955250
9/10/2007Oakland Park, FL

TheWillemsHome17,3641750
9/10/2007Galloway Township, NJ

ComfortHome8,217200
8/30/2007Dublin, OH

10000-sq-feet32,84422260
8/26/2007La Habra Heights, CA

Bird-house9,4163400
8/22/2007Ithaca, NY

Circle-S_ICF_House30,522462640
8/21/2007Sparta, IL

New-England-Saltbox7,858100
8/16/2007Columbia, SC

RamblewoodatJeterFar...8,5506330
8/10/2007Kansas City, MO

Kraemer-Collinwood-H...8,236200
7/21/2007Delano, MN

BigOakBuilderTX11,105270
7/20/2007Wharton, TX

Johnson-Family-Dream8,181100
7/20/2007Normal, IL

19225-ROBERTSON-ST14,54614250
7/12/2007Orlando, FL

Thattle-Dew-Farm8,061220
7/12/2007Halls Harbour, NS

WindyJ11,88311260
7/2/2007Knoxville, TN

Vistoso-Green-Home9,288310
6/28/2007Tucson, AZ

Lewis-Chapel-House12,751200
6/25/2007Dunlap, TN

father-daughter7,685200
6/25/2007Loveland, CO

davewhite8,638100
6/24/2007Nanaimo, BC

NutmegWedgefieldOrla...9,695600
6/22/2007Orlando, FL

4600SF-Dream-Home-in...11,674410
6/19/2007Mooresville, NC

Coeur-dAlene-Idaho-H...9,267240
6/13/2007Coeur d Alene, ID

Tampa-Bay10,772490
6/10/2007Ruskin, FL

Dream-In-Progress10,931540
6/7/2007Shawnee, KS

todd-in-tullahoma8,055100
6/4/2007tullahoma, TN

TheOwens8,724300
6/1/2007Dickson, TN

Country-Cleaver8,809140
5/29/2007Springfield, IL

South-Dakota-Lake-Ho...9,1636110
5/23/2007Sioux Falls, SD

Gods-Home8,278200
5/18/2007Eustis, FL

hammock8,205110
5/14/2007Martinez, GA

Grove-St-Rocklin8,309300
5/13/2007Orangevale, CA

Gardeners-Delight8,990330
5/13/2007Norristown, PA

Newman-Family9,116100
4/26/2007oralndo, FL

do-over-house9,131200
4/25/2007Roseville, CA

Mountain-Building8,511370
4/21/2007Hiawassee, GA

Alaskan-Log-Home9,593120
4/15/2007Tok, AK

Warner-Dream9,993600
4/11/2007Astatula, FL

RehmannSchreiner10,56018150
4/2/2007Maple Grove, MN

outspokenbikeguy10,7884140
3/29/2007Sanford, FL

SmelltheForest30,359471480
3/23/2007Colorado Springs, CO

PolkCityProject12,2427110
3/21/2007Norcross, GA

DwaynePam9,056200
3/21/2007Normal, IL

cypressknoll8,294100
3/20/2007Palm Coast, FL

candlepower15,038241550
3/20/2007Lansing, IA

Team-Rosa9,127200
3/19/2007Springfield, VA

GLOUCESTER8,655120
3/17/2007Newport News, VA

Ohiodreamhome9,0624140
3/16/2007Reynoldsburg, OH

Gypsy-Love9,641110
3/12/2007Highland, NY

Forrest-Towne8,807220
3/10/2007Brinnon, WA

Dreams-Come-True8,063100
3/8/2007Glen St Mary, FL

Almost-A-Country-Gir...8,017100
3/7/2007Addison Township, MI

BrandonBuildingBlog8,935100
3/4/2007Layton, UT

SafecreteHouse10,129300
3/4/2007Raleigh, NC

newbie-9,009100
2/21/2007North Plains, OR

BuzzardsNest11,316310
2/14/2007Saint Lucie, FL

woodfamilyhome9,705200
2/10/2007Keno, OR

vegascastle8,890100
2/3/2007Henderson, NV

newsteel8,704100
1/28/2007Florence, SC

Dream-Home-20079,220100
1/27/2007Gwynn Oak, MD

DelgadosAdobeAbode9,974200
1/18/2007San Diego, CA

bobindeltona11,490250
1/14/2007Deltona, FL

Highland649,521300
1/8/2007New Orleans, LA

SmallProjectSilverSp...13,3351020
1/7/2007Silver Springs, NV

BeehlerHome17,68611640
1/3/2007Kalamazoo, MI

eveningshade9,284110
12/25/2006Evening Shade, AR

Bruce in Petrolia, O...8,613120
12/21/2006Petrolia, ON

smahmud8,659100
12/18/2006Alexandria, VA

1000-hours-to-liftof...9,783100
11/25/2006Uniontown, OH

FettConstruction9,875460
11/24/2006Vincennes, IN

Northeast-Ohio-Home9,994100
11/10/2006Parma, OH

Buchanan-Mountain14,29014590
11/1/2006Dickson, TN

Our-Future-on-Badin-...9,844100
10/24/2006New London, NC

nowi-fe-haven9,131100
10/22/2006Griffin, GA

klonus9,144100
10/16/2006Madison, WI

OurAddition13,607100
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Posted to Spyders-Web by Ken in Norman, OK on 6/10/2008

Today I am starting the journal, and I hope I can keep it updated. I have been planning for the past few months on my design and construction methods. I appreciate all the wonderful comments (and humor) of the contributors. I am including an almost-complete house plan. I elected to go ICF and my designer is making the final changes on wall sides. We selected radiant floor heat with LPG and have a safe room designed in the master closet (Oklahoma is known for tornadoes!). We are building on a 11+ acre lot. My current house lies on 23 acres and we divided the land into two parcels. We are in a wooded area of eastern Oklahoma, about 15 miles east of University of Oklahoma.

This is my first and probably last build. I am 62 and retired now so I will be really on-site a lot. My neighbor built his house last year and used The O-B Book. He has been a real asset since his lessons learned. Our city (Norman) has a history of severe inspections, so we are trying to prepare for that.

Anyone have experience with Dryvit or artificial stucco? We are still deciding on a finish. Brick or stucco.

I hope to have the permits by the end of the week, and have the site prepared for the layout and footings for next week. The ICF contractor (ICH) of OKC, is doing the footings, setting the blocks and pouring. I have elected to have the walls poured first and then do the slab later after I do the rough plumbing and electric. My intent is to have a roof built before the slab is poured so we can do much of the work under cover. The issue I just realized is that I wouldn't have the interior load-bearing walls in place. Something I need to negotiate with the city.

We are also building a 24x36 foot ICF barn/storage building next to the house.

I'll try to post some current pictures of the site in the next entry. I just wrote my first check on the construction loan, and reality is starting to sink in. I can't believe how many of you have done this and still had to attend to your job and family. My hat is off to you all!

Cheers

Spyder

 


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