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Barrel-Race7,116791630
YesterdayHouston, TX

Cobbler-Mountain-Hom...20100
MondayAlexandria, VA

Vilano-Beach--Water-...21,220391170
4/5/2014Saint Augustine, FL

HudsonHouse7,032300
4/2/2014Omaha, NE

Tanglewood86,8707862,22242
3/24/2014Colorado Springs, CO

697MarlinAustinArea1,20518910
3/15/2014Austin/McDade, TX

1860s-Texas-rehabnew...43,175441910
3/14/2014Boerne, TX

Bladenkirk543640
3/13/2014White Oak, NC

P-Wade-Crocker432100
3/12/2014Spring, TX

Shana509200
3/11/2014Chaffee, MO

OwensNewHome60,0591033810
2/2/2014Chandler, AZ

Du-Lock-Lane1,316200
2/1/2014Houston, TX

Family-Affair10,624440
1/31/2014Saint Petersburg, FL

TheCastle10,006270
1/23/2014Cheshire, CT

The-Last-Rodeo9,69027100
1/14/2014Angel Fire, NM

TheHoskensProject58,5771504333
12/31/2013Dome-ville, central, FL

NorthPoleHome30,265341330
12/29/2013North Pole, AK

navarre-village-buil...1,197100
12/26/2013Gulf Breeze, FL

Seven-Peaks-Faswall-...34,874483181
11/18/2013Graeagle, CA

The-Dailey-Project1,787100
10/27/2013Pompano Beach, FL

Beaver-Creek-Ranch30,329213210
10/15/2013Hayfork, CA

The-Cortes-Adventure17,704520
10/14/2013Snowflake, AZ

jeff3,886300
8/29/2013Jackson, MO

Miami-FL-country-hom...5,392320
7/30/2013Miami, FL

Brevard-County--Pt-S...2,571100
7/17/2013Rockledge, FL

Dream-Build-Austin-T...4,176300
4/17/2013Austin, TX

Eschete-Dome22,42430530
12/24/2012Lafayette, LA

ChapelHillNCBob5,581110
10/23/2012Chapel Hill, NC

The-Skimino-Bluff6,9963130
10/13/2012Williamsburg, VA

Octagon-in-Glencoe-C...48,843144110
10/8/2012Glencoe , CA

nateshomemtpeakview4,688100
9/29/2012

sherman20,073221560
9/27/2012Downers Grove, IL

Omaha9,204380
9/13/2012Omaha, NE

Holy-Hill-House16,52235530
8/27/2012Richfield, WI

Omega-CEO5,649110
8/13/2012Manassas, VA

JayHouse10,3547190
6/22/2012Sebastopol, CA

30233,42523770
5/20/2012Belfair, WA

SunburnStateHome6,329110
3/6/2012Charlotte County, FL

VICTOR-MONTANA8,126110
2/22/2012Victor, MT

Houston-720125966,813100
1/21/2012Houston, TX

Workshop15,622630
1/8/2012Florissant, CO

Our-simple-home11,843223080
12/5/2011LaPorte, IN

ICF-Construction19,412500
11/11/2011Elkridge, MD

Little-Help-from-my-...12,30311150
11/4/2011Rockwall, TX

YaNYca14,028810
10/29/2011Boston, MA

The-Man-Refuge10,872310
10/19/2011San Antonio, TX

mckernanmc11,174320
10/6/2011Amite, LA

Large-Family-Compoun...7,461200
9/23/2011Covington, GA

Woodchuck-Ridge10,331480
9/12/2011Akron, OH

Forever-Home-Sweet-H...20,99834310
8/24/2011Issaquah, WA

Clarksville-MD9,105200
8/22/2011Eldersburg, MD

steve-n-carolyn16,3514140
8/21/2011Sun City, CA

Old-York8,197200
7/27/2011Bridgewater, NJ

Carriage-House17,11120282
7/24/2011Ft. Collins, CO

DomeSweetDome22,35918291
6/4/2011Suffolk, VA

Goodpasture24,235562880
5/28/2011Westminster, CO

Marks-Log-Cabin13,949392210
5/12/2011Altoona, PA

Bill21,189100
5/4/2011Tucson, AZ

Mueller-Dream-Home8,829100
4/15/2011

Oklahoma-Steel10,778650
4/13/2011Minco, OK

DutchG8,443200
4/5/2011

HiddenInOhio10,3409130
4/1/2011Elyria, OH

MagnoliaHouse8,894100
3/29/2011Houston, TX

Buffaloader13,764200
1/11/2011Valley Center, KS

SouthernEcoHome27,87620210
1/9/2011Blacksburg, VA

Austrian-Chalet14,183780
1/2/2011Twin Lakes, CO

Vista-Ridge13,20921660
12/21/2010Swanton, OH

OurFarmstead28,496601890
12/10/2010Pennsylvania

AirparkHome-Remodel29,67922460
11/8/2010Hillsboro, OR

Holloway10,898200
11/7/2010Petersburg, VA

Building-Our-Lakefro...9,778110
11/5/2010Piscataway, NJ

SunburyGalena-Build9,046100
11/3/2010Galena, OH

BUILDING-OUR-GREEN-D...9,899800
11/2/2010Pattison, TX

RR-Homestead24,02731740
10/26/2010Janesville, CA

Casa-Paradiso-Vieque...9,855200
10/19/2010Chelsea, MA

Millerbuild11,1255110
10/1/2010Carstairs, AB

Delisledigs11,537300
9/16/2010Jacksonville, FL

h20dave11,367430
9/10/2010Waterloo, AL

Mountain-Idyl11,110900
9/9/2010Asheville, NC

High-over-Lake-Granb...14,59812230
9/8/2010Granbury, TX

Homestead35,98964850
9/8/2010Smithville, MO

philandjan12,969100
9/2/2010

Commons10,195200
8/21/2010Atascocita, TX

Our-First-OB-home10,584300
7/27/2010Gardner, KS

Louisiana-Mediterran...20,138311870
7/21/2010Sunset, LA

Crows-Nest9,869100
7/20/2010

Patterson-Project10,432400
7/16/2010John's Island, SC

Hidden-Meadow-Home12,4722100
7/13/2010Murrieta, CA

New-house-in-Selah-W...10,225140
7/4/2010Belfair, WA

Arnold-CA-Alpine-cha...20,95622100
7/2/2010Arnold, CA

Working-Wilton39,932343010
6/16/2010Wilton, NH

JJ-Residence9,648100
6/7/2010San Antonio, TX

Thompson-Valley-Home10,844330
6/6/2010Monticello, FL

Naperville-Webster-S...26,4062360
5/21/2010Naperville, IL

Gary--Suzi11,088100
5/7/2010

crystal-falls-home28,87720270
5/5/2010Cedar Park, TX

Kapoho-Retirement-Ho...10,919130
5/4/2010Santa Ana, CA

NC--New-Construction10,516100
5/3/2010

Collins-on-Cobblesto...11,51921910
4/30/2010Waynesville, NC

Dwight--Colleen-Hart...11,925130
4/30/2010Vaughn, WA

Riley32,86132950
4/29/2010Cave Creek, AZ

The-New-Ries-Homeste...14,92019980
4/21/2010Polk/Richfield/Erin/Hartford, WI

The-Season9,562130
4/10/2010Mount Airy, NC

The-Naas-Place10,071200
3/30/2010Pittsburg, CA

Phil-and-Lauras-home13,121400
3/20/2010Tulsa, OK

Southport-NC-Home17,575201281
3/18/2010Southport, NC

Loris25,045110
3/11/2010

Seaton-Station10,268140
3/10/2010Siloam Springs, AR

Backwoods-Project14,324390
3/4/2010Jeffersonville, GA

ICF-in-Ann-Arbor26,257293710
1/25/2010Dexter, MI

DancingPines11,012200
1/25/2010Clinton, LA

Log-Cabin10,613150
1/23/2010indianapolis, IN

The-Kinzel-House10,009100
1/21/2010New Orleans, LA

PahrumpProject17,0905390
1/17/2010Spokane, WA

TheBeachHouse14,66313200
1/16/2010Shoreline, WA

Artist-Haven-Home14,975970
1/13/2010Kansas City, MO

SOPHIA--SAMUELDELAWA...17,43911310
12/2/2009Smyrna, DE

Plant-City-Craftsman16,8554100
11/22/2009Plant City, FL

WestermanFarm11,473130
11/10/2009Dickson, TN

Shane22,549600
10/31/2009San Antonio, TX

ADCountryHome12,8981130
10/31/2009Fort Worth, TX

ICF-Keller-Tx51,251321220
10/6/2009Roanoke, TX

digs24,272100
9/30/2009Tracy City, TN

threegables21,431201340
9/29/2009Hartland, WI

LittleLakeCorner72,9591016040
9/29/2009Groveland, FL

Utah-Casa11,618200
9/28/2009Saratoga Springs, UT

Tornado-Reconstructi...11,063800
9/24/2009Port Neches, TX

toolehouse50,347891450
9/20/2009Reno, NV

Bobs-Blog53,036614140
9/16/2009New Florence, PA

Blessings10,231100
9/11/2009farmville, NC

Schrammelot16,0217900
9/11/2009Pierson, FL

PennsmithLostValleyT...35,904552150
9/9/2009Dripping Springs, TX

River-House10,667220
9/7/2009Clinton, NJ

SantaFe-in-AJ10,418100
8/28/2009Apache Junction, AZ

Dennis-Dream-Home30,101385050
8/27/2009Readington Twp, NJ

Massive-Undertaking11,5671100
8/26/2009Wimauma, FL

Lafayette10,322200
8/11/2009Cramerton, NC

Dream-site-on-the-La...11,109200
8/5/2009La Porte, TX

Williams-New-Home-Si...10,365110
8/2/2009Windsor, NC

Cobblestone-Lane10,451100
7/30/2009Great Falls, MT

PensacolaBeachHouse10,258110
6/22/2009Gulf Breeze, FL

12YEARSINTHEPLANNING10,906120
6/16/2009LADSON, SC

Steinys-Hideaway10,876200
6/9/2009Venice, CA

DreamHome29,525261900
6/7/2009Orlando, FL

CastleHeims20,79621590
6/5/2009Cedar Rapids, IA

Utah-Warehouse10,129220
5/20/2009Fairview, UT

Where-to-start12,469610
5/16/2009Lemoore, CA

Castle-Rock-Lakehous...16,38310840
4/27/2009Necedah, WI

Oleg26,023360
4/22/2009San Diego, CA

MoeCompound10,296340
4/9/2009Camano Island, WA

Huckleberry-Home10,361200
4/8/2009Williamstown, NJ

Vonk24,293100
4/7/2009Zeeland, MI

Small-Timber-Frame14,708110
4/2/2009Central Mass, MA

EatonLoch-Haven11,155110
4/1/2009Roanoke, VA

windowsnsiding10,226110
3/28/2009Long Island, NY

Arkansas-First-Timer25,92339880
3/27/2009Trumann, AR

Back-Home-In-Crisp12,454111510
3/22/2009Ennis, TX

Victor--Susan-0820,373211210
3/17/2009Ruckersville, VA

Rick-and-Tinas-dream...11,686120
3/14/2009Auburndale, FL

Keener-Road13,0764100
3/11/2009Elizabethtown, PA

NC-Newbie10,977100
3/10/2009Boone, NC

MadisonGA11,1981130
2/26/2009Madison, GA

Techbuilt-Scammed12,643100
2/25/2009Rebew, LA

choanne83110,243100
2/9/2009charlotte, NC

WilliamsinVegas34,042301190
1/29/2009Henderson, NV

PhilesBryant12,090260
1/20/2009graham, WA

MortgageSmart10,460100
1/19/2009Cocoa, FL

QuarterlyHouse57,980136990
1/12/2009Orlando, FL

RabbitRun19,804311690
1/11/2009Afton, VA

Sonave-Sunsets10,567120
1/9/2009Yucca, AZ

Heart-of-PA16,1709160
1/6/2009Lewistown, PA

Krusehome11,640200
12/27/2008Lake City, FL

BrunkHouseAlmaKansas15,655260
12/26/2008Garden Grove, CA

Raider-Bills-Tenn-Ho...14,6586320
12/22/2008Largo, FL

Andel-Ranch28,341334020
12/17/2008Rogers, TX

Elijahs-Home11,823460
12/6/2008Vero Beach, FL

ranch-house10,460100
11/25/2008springfield, IL

Howard-Georgia-Retir...16,103670
11/9/2008Harlem, GA

The-Woods-Journal11,334110
11/6/2008Doraville, GA

StansTLH16,0691090
11/1/2008Tehachapi, CA

Kevin--Kerrys-Dream11,601350
10/17/2008Northvale, NJ

Katabatic-Wind12,206470
10/16/2008Huntsville, AL

Elmhurst-Modern13,658120
10/14/2008elmhurst, IL

Accessible-House11,6283100
10/14/2008Munford, TN

Cherry-Valley-Vista10,686120
10/5/2008Duvall, WA

Jon-and-Mollys-House18,309150
9/25/2008Ellicott City, MD

Proctor-ICF11,763110
9/25/2008Fredericksburg, VA

Hawaiian-Bungalo18,097111020
9/23/2008Holualoa, HI

Pete--Rhiannon12,765430
9/19/2008Springfield, MO

2008-Cedar-Ln17,60614350
9/19/2008Seaville, NJ

dmaceld20,80214880
9/16/2008Nampa, ID

Help-with-Goulds-and...12,927100
9/16/2008tampa, FL

Consulting10,326100
9/2/2008Orlando, FL

AlaskaICFREMOTEHouse16,75819380
8/17/2008Wasilla, AK

NC-Pond-House11,804320
8/4/2008Wilmington, NC

MargaritaVilla11,412240
8/4/2008Raleigh, NC

Latest-update12,7018100
8/4/2008Sierra Vista, AZ

ANDREA11,300400
8/2/2008Dallas, TX

The-Ridges14,07811130
7/31/2008Logan, UT

Avenida-Del-Sol15,19913520
7/31/2008Peoria, AZ

dream-home-ohio11,359600
7/30/2008Zanesville, OH

Penetang-Craftsman10,989360
7/27/2008Penetanguishene, ON

Tristan--11,443600
7/25/2008Lebanon, NJ

Dreamy-Design-in-Glo...16,742100
7/9/2008Clifton, VA

need-help-Jim11,927110
7/8/2008Bandon, OR

deltona-fl-custom-ho...12,5204140
7/6/2008Deltona Beach, FL

Ingraham-House-Chape...11,771200
6/29/2008Cary, NC

famborgie10,677100
6/26/2008Lockhart, TX

95821-Addition21,9437140
6/24/2008Sacramento, CA

Cajun-Homestead19,08312930
6/22/2008Lafayette, LA

West-Texas-Ranch-Hou...12,874110
6/18/2008Andrews, TX

Quail-Bluff-Pasco12,6869290
6/10/2008Pasco, WA

Spyders-Web10,596100
6/10/2008Norman, OK

mike-and-tori-darnle...13,120510
6/2/2008Rainbow, CA

Lin-Washington10,621100
5/29/2008Fresno, CA

Capernall-House11,467420
5/15/2008Belleville, MI

Hidden-Valley-Texas10,762100
5/7/2008Southlake, TX

cosdreamhome41,431731470
5/5/2008Colorado Springs, CO

Sowle-Family-House13,263590
4/29/2008South Burlington, VT

Cyberdoc-Residence10,973200
4/25/2008San Diego, CA

Fortune-House10,990100
4/17/2008Mooresville, NC

Joeb28,845400
4/15/2008Oakland, FL

Alvin-House11,238200
4/14/2008LaPorte, TX

Thomas-Home--Raintre...21,300271800
4/9/2008Lee's Summit, MO

Greg--Kathys-New-Hou...12,235200
4/3/2008Barryton, MI

Where-is-Waldo28,35044830
4/2/2008Marion, OH

Nimmerrichters-Fores...10,086100
4/2/2008Waldorf, MD

Mayfield-House10,699100
3/31/2008Mayfield, UT

beamanhouse10,761100
3/27/2008Manistique, MI

Kanak-ICF--Virginia15,524900
3/26/2008Fredericksburg, VA

Sheldon-St15,355300
3/21/2008Orlando, FL

Bert-25,970310
3/20/2008Southern, CA

Our-Ohio-ICF-home22,03620270
3/20/2008Mansfield, OH

ericdc11,233310
3/8/2008Uniontown, PA

EurekaHouse-ICF15,1165150
3/6/2008Berkeley, CA

Superstition-Views15,433281600
3/6/2008Mesa, AZ

Blue-Springs-Project12,9198230
2/24/2008Broken Arrow, OK

Our-House10,596100
2/24/2008Miami, FL

httpownerbuilderbook...13,342830
2/19/2008Clayton, NY

JourneyBackHome10,427100
2/3/2008Oviedo, FL

Collier-Home12,887110
2/1/2008Little Rock, AR

DDs-ICF12,430330
1/27/2008New Smyrna Bch, FL

EurekaMT-Timberframe12,0521430
1/24/2008Augusta, MI

The-Larnerd-House13,5345210
1/21/2008Newport News, VA

Casa-Bella11,375100
1/14/2008Pueblo West, CO

Gordon-Lake-House15,40017510
1/3/2008Oakland, IA

STEPHANIES-DREAM12,57417570
12/30/2007Lower Burrell, PA

Florida-Waterfront-C...14,974310
12/29/2007PB, FL

6158-in-Montgomery-T...11,323410
12/23/2007Conroe, TX

ClearwaterHills13,742260
12/14/2007Paradise Valley, AZ

BobDonna10,012100
12/12/2007Sacramento, CA

AboveTheAppleTree9,989100
12/8/2007La Farge, WI

Casa-Nostra12,254230
12/2/2007Bangor, PA

Building-the-Dream-i...13,795700
11/29/2007Gladstone, OR

Ingram-Fleming-ICF-H...16,399480
11/29/2007Plant City, FL

inniagara9,479100
11/24/2007Niagara Falls, ON

SchnabelEstate10,607240
11/16/2007Avon, IN

WeAreBuildingAgain21,44527560
11/15/2007Orlando, FL

Lake-Pleasant10,572210
11/14/2007Erie, PA

Green-for-Dean10,581100
11/10/2007San Jose, CA

The-Ponderosa12,3558220
11/4/2007Perry, OK

FlagholeRoad10,650260
10/25/2007Franklin, NH

Beckynray11,810300
10/24/2007Powhatan, VA

Spicewood-TX12,295330
10/20/2007Austin, TX

Powderhorn24,206481760
10/4/2007Florida

Luray-VA-1stTimeBuil...14,872730
10/4/2007Luray, VA

kittyfhughesnet10,360250
9/27/2007Noblesville, IN

Scott-Family10,936100
9/25/2007Trinity, AL

Taking-the-Plunge13,4356180
9/18/2007Springfield, OH

RozBuildingAdventure10,814100
9/14/2007San Pablo, CA

Helpful-Tips11,909200
9/13/2007Encinitas, CA

Poplar-Creek-Farm13,8535250
9/10/2007Oakland Park, FL

TheWillemsHome21,5811750
9/10/2007Galloway Township, NJ

ComfortHome11,386200
8/30/2007Dublin, OH

10000-sq-feet36,37422260
8/26/2007La Habra Heights, CA

Bird-house12,5123400
8/22/2007Ithaca, NY

Circle-S_ICF_House35,835462640
8/21/2007Sparta, IL

New-England-Saltbox10,789100
8/16/2007Columbia, SC

RamblewoodatJeterFar...11,6066330
8/10/2007Kansas City, MO

Kraemer-Collinwood-H...11,200200
7/21/2007Delano, MN

BigOakBuilderTX14,827270
7/20/2007Wharton, TX

Johnson-Family-Dream11,048100
7/20/2007Normal, IL

19225-ROBERTSON-ST17,74214250
7/12/2007Orlando, FL

Thattle-Dew-Farm10,999220
7/12/2007Halls Harbour, NS

WindyJ14,98111260
7/2/2007Knoxville, TN

Vistoso-Green-Home12,298310
6/28/2007Tucson, AZ

Lewis-Chapel-House16,510200
6/25/2007Dunlap, TN

father-daughter10,551200
6/25/2007Loveland, CO

davewhite11,532100
6/24/2007Nanaimo, BC

NutmegWedgefieldOrla...12,515600
6/22/2007Orlando, FL

4600SF-Dream-Home-in...14,612410
6/19/2007Mooresville, NC

Coeur-dAlene-Idaho-H...12,383240
6/13/2007Coeur d Alene, ID

Tampa-Bay13,962490
6/10/2007Ruskin, FL

Dream-In-Progress14,411540
6/7/2007Shawnee, KS

todd-in-tullahoma10,920100
6/4/2007tullahoma, TN

TheOwens11,701300
6/1/2007Dickson, TN

Country-Cleaver11,832140
5/29/2007Springfield, IL

South-Dakota-Lake-Ho...12,0906110
5/23/2007Sioux Falls, SD

Gods-Home11,237200
5/18/2007Eustis, FL

hammock11,093110
5/14/2007Martinez, GA

Grove-St-Rocklin11,177300
5/13/2007Orangevale, CA

Gardeners-Delight12,007330
5/13/2007Norristown, PA

Newman-Family12,025100
4/26/2007oralndo, FL

do-over-house12,682200
4/25/2007Roseville, CA

Mountain-Building11,403370
4/21/2007Hiawassee, GA

Alaskan-Log-Home12,728120
4/15/2007Tok, AK

Warner-Dream12,926600
4/11/2007Astatula, FL

RehmannSchreiner13,92118150
4/2/2007Maple Grove, MN

outspokenbikeguy13,5624140
3/29/2007Sanford, FL

SmelltheForest35,854471480
3/23/2007Colorado Springs, CO

PolkCityProject15,2177110
3/21/2007Norcross, GA

DwaynePam12,060200
3/21/2007Normal, IL

cypressknoll11,130100
3/20/2007Palm Coast, FL

candlepower19,151241550
3/20/2007Lansing, IA

Team-Rosa11,996200
3/19/2007Springfield, VA

GLOUCESTER11,677120
3/17/2007Newport News, VA

Ohiodreamhome12,0584140
3/16/2007Reynoldsburg, OH

Gypsy-Love12,543110
3/12/2007Highland, NY

Forrest-Towne11,739220
3/10/2007Brinnon, WA

Dreams-Come-True11,005100
3/8/2007Glen St Mary, FL

Almost-A-Country-Gir...11,016100
3/7/2007Addison Township, MI

BrandonBuildingBlog11,794100
3/4/2007Layton, UT

SafecreteHouse13,057300
3/4/2007Raleigh, NC

newbie-12,171100
2/21/2007North Plains, OR

BuzzardsNest14,406310
2/14/2007Saint Lucie, FL

woodfamilyhome12,516200
2/10/2007Keno, OR

vegascastle11,837100
2/3/2007Henderson, NV

newsteel17,809100
1/28/2007Florence, SC

Dream-Home-200712,351100
1/27/2007Gwynn Oak, MD

DelgadosAdobeAbode12,742200
1/18/2007San Diego, CA

bobindeltona14,971250
1/14/2007Deltona, FL

Highland6412,450300
1/8/2007New Orleans, LA

SmallProjectSilverSp...17,8051020
1/7/2007Silver Springs, NV

BeehlerHome22,72811640
1/3/2007Kalamazoo, MI

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Hi - We begin O-B construction in two months (Halifax, Nova Scotia). I'm new to this site and it looks extremely helpful and full of expertise!
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Good Karma

Posted by Mike & Carolyn in Smithville, MO on 8/26/2008 2:37:16 PM

I truly believe in good karma.  What I put out there comes back around…I’m convinced.  I've been convinced since I gave my dinner to a cold and hungry man on the corner one December night many years ago. Back then I could have lost a few pounds anyway and he certainly shouldn’t be any thinner.  A few days later the ‘way too expensive’ tool chest I bought for my husband for Christmas ended up being FREE. No kidding, free. (I fed him a few more time after that just for good measure!)  Now just a few days after I rescue a rather large and very hungry animal (some sort of prairie dog looking thing) that was trapped in an egress window well at one of the new homes I’m trying to sell, I get an excellent deal on painting! Not free, but a good deal nonetheless. The couple I was showing the house to told me to just leave the thing in there to die. Not thinking twice about it I said, “ I can’t do that, it’s not good karma.”

 

Now that the drywall is done we are working on getting painting lined up. (As well as finishing up the trim order, getting the hardwood floor installation bids, juggling gutter bid issues, working on the concrete layout and price and a few other items) We painted the exterior ourselves, well…most of it.  There is still a small part of trim that needs to be finished and the plan is to have it on THIS Thursday.  The plan was to paint the interior to save money. The only part that worried me was the enameled trim.  Mistakes really show up in it and I’d like it done right.

 

I stopped by a few new house sites to recruit painters on the side. I was very surprised with one crew.  They stayed loyal to their employer and would not take a side job. They simply gave me their boss’s number and said they only work through him. I’m guessing they have been tested before and it didn’t turn out well. So I called the boss.

 

Boss Painter drove out for the estimate. Since I am only getting estimates to feel better about how much we will be saving doing the work ourselves I ask for the prices over the phone telling them they don’t have to drive out. I truly felt awful when after he said he was close and wanted to see it then got lost twice, spending 30 extra minutes searching for it. First calling to say, “Now what street was I suppose to turn left on?” Then a second call with, “I’ve driven up and down 108th street 10 times and can’t find your address.” that’s because it on 138th street.

 

After he got there and looked around he called back with the figures. What follows is the conversation, one of the strangest I’ve had with a sub.

Painter - “Well I’m here and looked around.  Looks like a pretty simple job. I measured everything out and I can do it for $3.50 per square foot (floor plan footage). That includes everything being caulked and primed, ceiling painted, color coat on walls and enamel on doors and trim plus clean up.”

Me –      “Okay, what does that figure out to as a total?”

Painter – “Well, we really don’t want to turn anything down right now.  Tell you what, I’ll do it for $3.25 a foot, now $3.20 a foot.”

Me –      “Let me get a calculator, I’d like to see what that figure out to as a total.”

Painter – “You know, that will come to about $2,900 but I want to keep busy. I’ll do it for a flat $2,200.”

Me –      “Okay, let me talk to my husband about it and I’ll get back with you. I also need to talk to a friend of mine whose brother is a painter to see if he’s going to want to do it.”

 

He went from $2,975 to $2,200 in the mater of 3 minutes and I NEVER asked for a discount. He has the best price of everyone I talked to, with prices ranging from $4,800 to $2,350 but it’s still more that I want to pay for painting.  One of the first rules of negotiating is to wait for the other party to respond.  If you’re doing all the talking and dropping than you’re negotiating with yourself. 

 

A few days went by and he called back to see if we had made a decision.  What a concept a sub that actually follows up!  He does want the business!!! I told him we were still thinking about it, and we were. I was still waiting on a bid from my friend’s brother, which didn’t work out.  He lives about 45 minutes away and with the price of gas he’d have to charge me for it. He at least told me he charges $2.50 per square foot for side business. That would calculate to $2,125. Pretty darn close to where we were at but still a lot higher than the price of paint and free labor to apply it.

 

While we thought his price was fair we still planed on tackling the painting ourselves, at least the walls and ceiling. I called the Painter Boss back to see what he would charge to just spray the enamel. We had actually planed on doing the primer and ceilings this Thursday, even borrowed the scaffolding of the drywall guy, just have to deliver it to him by Saturday morning.  The painter said he’d have to work up a price and get back with me. A few hours later he called back and the second strangest conversation took place.

 

Painter – “I’d really like to help you guys out so I talked to my wife about it and can work out a lower price with you. What had you wanted to pay?”

Me, with my chin on the floor…I get to set the price??
“Well…stalling for time…I feel bad even saying it…Stalling for time as I thought of a figure and stared at my husband with wide eyes desperately wanting help on a figure….You were at $2,200 and we just don’t have it right now. All we could really afford, and would pay cash, is around $1,000, possibly $1,200.” (and I should have never said $1,200… I was just so shocked and felt like awful with such a low number.  I knew what everyone was charging.)

Painter – “I think we can get this done. We talked about it and I don’t know why but I want to do this for you. And I can if we can be around $1,400 and I can do it over a few days so I can do it my self and have less overhead in it.”

Me –      “It sounds like we may be able to do this.  I will need to talk to my husband about it but will call you back in the morning.”

 

I couldn’t believe it.  Something must be going on and he NEEDS the money.  We are getting the entire inside done by a professional painter at $1.60 per foot. Plus he is painting the loft area (only about 150 sq ft and will be all one color) and priming the 36’ x 28’ foot garage. Paint and Supplies would have cost me around $500 plus the cost to rent a sprayer is $100 per day. Now I don’t have to lift a figure other than to write the check. 

 

I called back to agree to his price…but we would need to schedule the completion date two weeks out so we would have the full amount.  He doesn’t need to know we have the money now and paid $1,600 five years ago to get out living, dining and kitchen painted.






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