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Barrel-Race7,080771570
TuesdayHouston, TX

Vilano-Beach--Water-...21,198391170
4/5/2014Saint Augustine, FL

HudsonHouse7,004300
4/2/2014Omaha, NE

Tanglewood86,6937862,22242
3/24/2014Colorado Springs, CO

697MarlinAustinArea1,18218910
3/15/2014Austin/McDade, TX

1860s-Texas-rehabnew...43,129441910
3/14/2014Boerne, TX

Bladenkirk529640
3/13/2014White Oak, NC

P-Wade-Crocker409100
3/12/2014Spring, TX

Shana486200
3/11/2014Chaffee, MO

OwensNewHome59,9961033810
2/2/2014Chandler, AZ

Du-Lock-Lane1,293200
2/1/2014Houston, TX

Family-Affair10,593440
1/31/2014Saint Petersburg, FL

TheCastle9,982270
1/23/2014Cheshire, CT

The-Last-Rodeo9,65827100
1/14/2014Angel Fire, NM

TheHoskensProject58,5141504333
12/31/2013Dome-ville, central, FL

NorthPoleHome30,218341330
12/29/2013North Pole, AK

navarre-village-buil...1,182100
12/26/2013Gulf Breeze, FL

Seven-Peaks-Faswall-...34,827483181
11/18/2013Graeagle, CA

The-Dailey-Project1,771100
10/27/2013Pompano Beach, FL

Beaver-Creek-Ranch30,277213210
10/15/2013Hayfork, CA

The-Cortes-Adventure17,683520
10/14/2013Snowflake, AZ

jeff3,861300
8/29/2013Jackson, MO

Miami-FL-country-hom...5,371320
7/30/2013Miami, FL

Brevard-County--Pt-S...2,557100
7/17/2013Rockledge, FL

Dream-Build-Austin-T...4,156300
4/17/2013Austin, TX

Eschete-Dome22,38630530
12/24/2012Lafayette, LA

ChapelHillNCBob5,563110
10/23/2012Chapel Hill, NC

The-Skimino-Bluff6,9673130
10/13/2012Williamsburg, VA

Octagon-in-Glencoe-C...48,786144110
10/8/2012Glencoe , CA

nateshomemtpeakview4,667100
9/29/2012

sherman20,041221560
9/27/2012Downers Grove, IL

Omaha9,170380
9/13/2012Omaha, NE

Holy-Hill-House16,48435530
8/27/2012Richfield, WI

Omega-CEO5,620110
8/13/2012Manassas, VA

JayHouse10,3277190
6/22/2012Sebastopol, CA

30233,38223770
5/20/2012Belfair, WA

SunburnStateHome6,306110
3/6/2012Charlotte County, FL

VICTOR-MONTANA8,103110
2/22/2012Victor, MT

Houston-720125966,793100
1/21/2012Houston, TX

Workshop15,596630
1/8/2012Florissant, CO

Our-simple-home11,816223080
12/5/2011LaPorte, IN

ICF-Construction19,372500
11/11/2011Elkridge, MD

Little-Help-from-my-...12,27011150
11/4/2011Rockwall, TX

YaNYca14,013810
10/29/2011Boston, MA

The-Man-Refuge10,846310
10/19/2011San Antonio, TX

mckernanmc11,152320
10/6/2011Amite, LA

Large-Family-Compoun...7,443200
9/23/2011Covington, GA

Woodchuck-Ridge10,300480
9/12/2011Akron, OH

Forever-Home-Sweet-H...20,93334310
8/24/2011Issaquah, WA

Clarksville-MD9,076200
8/22/2011Eldersburg, MD

steve-n-carolyn16,3224140
8/21/2011Sun City, CA

Old-York8,169200
7/27/2011Bridgewater, NJ

Carriage-House17,07820282
7/24/2011Ft. Collins, CO

DomeSweetDome22,31018291
6/4/2011Suffolk, VA

Goodpasture24,166562880
5/28/2011Westminster, CO

Marks-Log-Cabin13,931392210
5/12/2011Altoona, PA

Bill21,129100
5/4/2011Tucson, AZ

Mueller-Dream-Home8,802100
4/15/2011

Oklahoma-Steel10,747650
4/13/2011Minco, OK

DutchG8,419200
4/5/2011

HiddenInOhio10,3219130
4/1/2011Elyria, OH

MagnoliaHouse8,868100
3/29/2011Houston, TX

Buffaloader13,729200
1/11/2011Valley Center, KS

SouthernEcoHome27,80720210
1/9/2011Blacksburg, VA

Austrian-Chalet14,144780
1/2/2011Twin Lakes, CO

Vista-Ridge13,18021660
12/21/2010Swanton, OH

OurFarmstead28,439601890
12/10/2010Pennsylvania

AirparkHome-Remodel29,62422460
11/8/2010Hillsboro, OR

Holloway10,870200
11/7/2010Petersburg, VA

Building-Our-Lakefro...9,761110
11/5/2010Piscataway, NJ

SunburyGalena-Build9,022100
11/3/2010Galena, OH

BUILDING-OUR-GREEN-D...9,884800
11/2/2010Pattison, TX

RR-Homestead23,99031740
10/26/2010Janesville, CA

Casa-Paradiso-Vieque...9,836200
10/19/2010Chelsea, MA

Millerbuild11,1035110
10/1/2010Carstairs, AB

Delisledigs11,517300
9/16/2010Jacksonville, FL

h20dave11,344430
9/10/2010Waterloo, AL

Mountain-Idyl11,091900
9/9/2010Asheville, NC

High-over-Lake-Granb...14,57512230
9/8/2010Granbury, TX

Homestead35,95764850
9/8/2010Smithville, MO

philandjan12,950100
9/2/2010

Commons10,174200
8/21/2010Atascocita, TX

Our-First-OB-home10,563300
7/27/2010Gardner, KS

Louisiana-Mediterran...20,113311870
7/21/2010Sunset, LA

Crows-Nest9,840100
7/20/2010

Patterson-Project10,407400
7/16/2010John's Island, SC

Hidden-Meadow-Home12,4522100
7/13/2010Murrieta, CA

New-house-in-Selah-W...10,201140
7/4/2010Belfair, WA

Arnold-CA-Alpine-cha...20,91622100
7/2/2010Arnold, CA

Working-Wilton39,896343010
6/16/2010Wilton, NH

JJ-Residence9,621100
6/7/2010San Antonio, TX

Thompson-Valley-Home10,823330
6/6/2010Monticello, FL

Naperville-Webster-S...26,3652360
5/21/2010Naperville, IL

Gary--Suzi11,067100
5/7/2010

crystal-falls-home28,83320270
5/5/2010Cedar Park, TX

Kapoho-Retirement-Ho...10,896130
5/4/2010Santa Ana, CA

NC--New-Construction10,496100
5/3/2010

Collins-on-Cobblesto...11,49621910
4/30/2010Waynesville, NC

Dwight--Colleen-Hart...11,901130
4/30/2010Vaughn, WA

Riley32,81732950
4/29/2010Cave Creek, AZ

The-New-Ries-Homeste...14,89319980
4/21/2010Polk/Richfield/Erin/Hartford, WI

The-Season9,541130
4/10/2010Mount Airy, NC

The-Naas-Place10,051200
3/30/2010Pittsburg, CA

Phil-and-Lauras-home13,106400
3/20/2010Tulsa, OK

Southport-NC-Home17,542201281
3/18/2010Southport, NC

Loris25,003110
3/11/2010

Seaton-Station10,248140
3/10/2010Siloam Springs, AR

Backwoods-Project14,304390
3/4/2010Jeffersonville, GA

ICF-in-Ann-Arbor26,230293710
1/25/2010Dexter, MI

DancingPines10,991200
1/25/2010Clinton, LA

Log-Cabin10,591150
1/23/2010indianapolis, IN

The-Kinzel-House9,986100
1/21/2010New Orleans, LA

PahrumpProject17,0685390
1/17/2010Spokane, WA

TheBeachHouse14,64213200
1/16/2010Shoreline, WA

Artist-Haven-Home14,959970
1/13/2010Kansas City, MO

SOPHIA--SAMUELDELAWA...17,40811310
12/2/2009Smyrna, DE

Plant-City-Craftsman16,8304100
11/22/2009Plant City, FL

WestermanFarm11,445130
11/10/2009Dickson, TN

Shane22,517600
10/31/2009San Antonio, TX

ADCountryHome12,8721130
10/31/2009Fort Worth, TX

ICF-Keller-Tx51,222321220
10/6/2009Roanoke, TX

digs24,232100
9/30/2009Tracy City, TN

threegables21,399201340
9/29/2009Hartland, WI

LittleLakeCorner72,8771016040
9/29/2009Groveland, FL

Utah-Casa11,596200
9/28/2009Saratoga Springs, UT

Tornado-Reconstructi...11,044800
9/24/2009Port Neches, TX

toolehouse50,307891450
9/20/2009Reno, NV

Bobs-Blog53,003614140
9/16/2009New Florence, PA

Blessings10,210100
9/11/2009farmville, NC

Schrammelot15,9987900
9/11/2009Pierson, FL

PennsmithLostValleyT...35,865552150
9/9/2009Dripping Springs, TX

River-House10,647220
9/7/2009Clinton, NJ

SantaFe-in-AJ10,390100
8/28/2009Apache Junction, AZ

Dennis-Dream-Home30,068385050
8/27/2009Readington Twp, NJ

Massive-Undertaking11,5401100
8/26/2009Wimauma, FL

Lafayette10,298200
8/11/2009Cramerton, NC

Dream-site-on-the-La...11,089200
8/5/2009La Porte, TX

Williams-New-Home-Si...10,340110
8/2/2009Windsor, NC

Cobblestone-Lane10,426100
7/30/2009Great Falls, MT

PensacolaBeachHouse10,238110
6/22/2009Gulf Breeze, FL

12YEARSINTHEPLANNING10,883120
6/16/2009LADSON, SC

Steinys-Hideaway10,858200
6/9/2009Venice, CA

DreamHome29,502261900
6/7/2009Orlando, FL

CastleHeims20,77221590
6/5/2009Cedar Rapids, IA

Utah-Warehouse10,105220
5/20/2009Fairview, UT

Where-to-start12,441610
5/16/2009Lemoore, CA

Castle-Rock-Lakehous...16,36010840
4/27/2009Necedah, WI

Oleg25,982360
4/22/2009San Diego, CA

MoeCompound10,271340
4/9/2009Camano Island, WA

Huckleberry-Home10,344200
4/8/2009Williamstown, NJ

Vonk24,245100
4/7/2009Zeeland, MI

Small-Timber-Frame14,682110
4/2/2009Central Mass, MA

EatonLoch-Haven11,138110
4/1/2009Roanoke, VA

windowsnsiding10,202110
3/28/2009Long Island, NY

Arkansas-First-Timer25,87139880
3/27/2009Trumann, AR

Back-Home-In-Crisp12,428111510
3/22/2009Ennis, TX

Victor--Susan-0820,345211210
3/17/2009Ruckersville, VA

Rick-and-Tinas-dream...11,661120
3/14/2009Auburndale, FL

Keener-Road13,0514100
3/11/2009Elizabethtown, PA

NC-Newbie10,958100
3/10/2009Boone, NC

MadisonGA11,1811130
2/26/2009Madison, GA

Techbuilt-Scammed12,620100
2/25/2009Rebew, LA

choanne83110,217100
2/9/2009charlotte, NC

WilliamsinVegas34,013301190
1/29/2009Henderson, NV

PhilesBryant12,068260
1/20/2009graham, WA

MortgageSmart10,441100
1/19/2009Cocoa, FL

QuarterlyHouse57,917136990
1/12/2009Orlando, FL

RabbitRun19,778311690
1/11/2009Afton, VA

Sonave-Sunsets10,546120
1/9/2009Yucca, AZ

Heart-of-PA16,1459160
1/6/2009Lewistown, PA

Krusehome11,619200
12/27/2008Lake City, FL

BrunkHouseAlmaKansas15,626260
12/26/2008Garden Grove, CA

Raider-Bills-Tenn-Ho...14,6386320
12/22/2008Largo, FL

Andel-Ranch28,312334020
12/17/2008Rogers, TX

Elijahs-Home11,804460
12/6/2008Vero Beach, FL

ranch-house10,435100
11/25/2008springfield, IL

Howard-Georgia-Retir...16,068670
11/9/2008Harlem, GA

The-Woods-Journal11,307110
11/6/2008Doraville, GA

StansTLH16,0301090
11/1/2008Tehachapi, CA

Kevin--Kerrys-Dream11,580350
10/17/2008Northvale, NJ

Katabatic-Wind12,187470
10/16/2008Huntsville, AL

Elmhurst-Modern13,637120
10/14/2008elmhurst, IL

Accessible-House11,6073100
10/14/2008Munford, TN

Cherry-Valley-Vista10,662120
10/5/2008Duvall, WA

Jon-and-Mollys-House18,277150
9/25/2008Ellicott City, MD

Proctor-ICF11,735110
9/25/2008Fredericksburg, VA

Hawaiian-Bungalo18,075111020
9/23/2008Holualoa, HI

Pete--Rhiannon12,748430
9/19/2008Springfield, MO

2008-Cedar-Ln17,56414350
9/19/2008Seaville, NJ

dmaceld20,76814880
9/16/2008Nampa, ID

Help-with-Goulds-and...12,904100
9/16/2008tampa, FL

Consulting10,306100
9/2/2008Orlando, FL

AlaskaICFREMOTEHouse16,72419380
8/17/2008Wasilla, AK

NC-Pond-House11,770320
8/4/2008Wilmington, NC

MargaritaVilla11,387240
8/4/2008Raleigh, NC

Latest-update12,6828100
8/4/2008Sierra Vista, AZ

ANDREA11,270400
8/2/2008Dallas, TX

The-Ridges14,04211130
7/31/2008Logan, UT

Avenida-Del-Sol15,17513520
7/31/2008Peoria, AZ

dream-home-ohio11,336600
7/30/2008Zanesville, OH

Penetang-Craftsman10,964360
7/27/2008Penetanguishene, ON

Tristan--11,421600
7/25/2008Lebanon, NJ

Dreamy-Design-in-Glo...16,723100
7/9/2008Clifton, VA

need-help-Jim11,903110
7/8/2008Bandon, OR

deltona-fl-custom-ho...12,5004140
7/6/2008Deltona Beach, FL

Ingraham-House-Chape...11,755200
6/29/2008Cary, NC

famborgie10,658100
6/26/2008Lockhart, TX

95821-Addition21,9217140
6/24/2008Sacramento, CA

Cajun-Homestead19,05312930
6/22/2008Lafayette, LA

West-Texas-Ranch-Hou...12,858110
6/18/2008Andrews, TX

Quail-Bluff-Pasco12,6639290
6/10/2008Pasco, WA

Spyders-Web10,562100
6/10/2008Norman, OK

mike-and-tori-darnle...13,095510
6/2/2008Rainbow, CA

Lin-Washington10,604100
5/29/2008Fresno, CA

Capernall-House11,447420
5/15/2008Belleville, MI

Hidden-Valley-Texas10,742100
5/7/2008Southlake, TX

cosdreamhome41,400731470
5/5/2008Colorado Springs, CO

Sowle-Family-House13,238590
4/29/2008South Burlington, VT

Cyberdoc-Residence10,952200
4/25/2008San Diego, CA

Fortune-House10,978100
4/17/2008Mooresville, NC

Joeb28,809400
4/15/2008Oakland, FL

Alvin-House11,219200
4/14/2008LaPorte, TX

Thomas-Home--Raintre...21,275271800
4/9/2008Lee's Summit, MO

Greg--Kathys-New-Hou...12,211200
4/3/2008Barryton, MI

Where-is-Waldo28,32444830
4/2/2008Marion, OH

Nimmerrichters-Fores...10,065100
4/2/2008Waldorf, MD

Mayfield-House10,679100
3/31/2008Mayfield, UT

beamanhouse10,728100
3/27/2008Manistique, MI

Kanak-ICF--Virginia15,501900
3/26/2008Fredericksburg, VA

Sheldon-St15,327300
3/21/2008Orlando, FL

Bert-25,911310
3/20/2008Southern, CA

Our-Ohio-ICF-home22,01320270
3/20/2008Mansfield, OH

ericdc11,215310
3/8/2008Uniontown, PA

EurekaHouse-ICF15,0925150
3/6/2008Berkeley, CA

Superstition-Views15,407281600
3/6/2008Mesa, AZ

Blue-Springs-Project12,8938230
2/24/2008Broken Arrow, OK

Our-House10,570100
2/24/2008Miami, FL

httpownerbuilderbook...13,319830
2/19/2008Clayton, NY

JourneyBackHome10,408100
2/3/2008Oviedo, FL

Collier-Home12,862110
2/1/2008Little Rock, AR

DDs-ICF12,410330
1/27/2008New Smyrna Bch, FL

EurekaMT-Timberframe12,0351430
1/24/2008Augusta, MI

The-Larnerd-House13,5155210
1/21/2008Newport News, VA

Casa-Bella11,355100
1/14/2008Pueblo West, CO

Gordon-Lake-House15,37717510
1/3/2008Oakland, IA

STEPHANIES-DREAM12,56217570
12/30/2007Lower Burrell, PA

Florida-Waterfront-C...14,950310
12/29/2007PB, FL

6158-in-Montgomery-T...11,301410
12/23/2007Conroe, TX

ClearwaterHills13,712260
12/14/2007Paradise Valley, AZ

BobDonna9,989100
12/12/2007Sacramento, CA

AboveTheAppleTree9,967100
12/8/2007La Farge, WI

Casa-Nostra12,228230
12/2/2007Bangor, PA

Building-the-Dream-i...13,775700
11/29/2007Gladstone, OR

Ingram-Fleming-ICF-H...16,377480
11/29/2007Plant City, FL

inniagara9,463100
11/24/2007Niagara Falls, ON

SchnabelEstate10,582240
11/16/2007Avon, IN

WeAreBuildingAgain21,39927560
11/15/2007Orlando, FL

Lake-Pleasant10,542210
11/14/2007Erie, PA

Green-for-Dean10,561100
11/10/2007San Jose, CA

The-Ponderosa12,3308220
11/4/2007Perry, OK

FlagholeRoad10,624260
10/25/2007Franklin, NH

Beckynray11,785300
10/24/2007Powhatan, VA

Spicewood-TX12,272330
10/20/2007Austin, TX

Powderhorn24,170481760
10/4/2007Florida

Luray-VA-1stTimeBuil...14,853730
10/4/2007Luray, VA

kittyfhughesnet10,329250
9/27/2007Noblesville, IN

Scott-Family10,914100
9/25/2007Trinity, AL

Taking-the-Plunge13,4116180
9/18/2007Springfield, OH

RozBuildingAdventure10,794100
9/14/2007San Pablo, CA

Helpful-Tips11,890200
9/13/2007Encinitas, CA

Poplar-Creek-Farm13,8305250
9/10/2007Oakland Park, FL

TheWillemsHome21,5551750
9/10/2007Galloway Township, NJ

ComfortHome11,365200
8/30/2007Dublin, OH

10000-sq-feet36,34922260
8/26/2007La Habra Heights, CA

Bird-house12,4883400
8/22/2007Ithaca, NY

Circle-S_ICF_House35,777462640
8/21/2007Sparta, IL

New-England-Saltbox10,769100
8/16/2007Columbia, SC

RamblewoodatJeterFar...11,5856330
8/10/2007Kansas City, MO

Kraemer-Collinwood-H...11,179200
7/21/2007Delano, MN

BigOakBuilderTX14,800270
7/20/2007Wharton, TX

Johnson-Family-Dream11,029100
7/20/2007Normal, IL

19225-ROBERTSON-ST17,71714250
7/12/2007Orlando, FL

Thattle-Dew-Farm10,980220
7/12/2007Halls Harbour, NS

WindyJ14,95111260
7/2/2007Knoxville, TN

Vistoso-Green-Home12,277310
6/28/2007Tucson, AZ

Lewis-Chapel-House16,479200
6/25/2007Dunlap, TN

father-daughter10,528200
6/25/2007Loveland, CO

davewhite11,510100
6/24/2007Nanaimo, BC

NutmegWedgefieldOrla...12,494600
6/22/2007Orlando, FL

4600SF-Dream-Home-in...14,587410
6/19/2007Mooresville, NC

Coeur-dAlene-Idaho-H...12,364240
6/13/2007Coeur d Alene, ID

Tampa-Bay13,940490
6/10/2007Ruskin, FL

Dream-In-Progress14,380540
6/7/2007Shawnee, KS

todd-in-tullahoma10,904100
6/4/2007tullahoma, TN

TheOwens11,682300
6/1/2007Dickson, TN

Country-Cleaver11,807140
5/29/2007Springfield, IL

South-Dakota-Lake-Ho...12,0746110
5/23/2007Sioux Falls, SD

Gods-Home11,219200
5/18/2007Eustis, FL

hammock11,073110
5/14/2007Martinez, GA

Grove-St-Rocklin11,154300
5/13/2007Orangevale, CA

Gardeners-Delight11,985330
5/13/2007Norristown, PA

Newman-Family11,997100
4/26/2007oralndo, FL

do-over-house12,650200
4/25/2007Roseville, CA

Mountain-Building11,382370
4/21/2007Hiawassee, GA

Alaskan-Log-Home12,709120
4/15/2007Tok, AK

Warner-Dream12,904600
4/11/2007Astatula, FL

RehmannSchreiner13,89418150
4/2/2007Maple Grove, MN

outspokenbikeguy13,5464140
3/29/2007Sanford, FL

SmelltheForest35,814471480
3/23/2007Colorado Springs, CO

PolkCityProject15,2007110
3/21/2007Norcross, GA

DwaynePam12,038200
3/21/2007Normal, IL

cypressknoll11,104100
3/20/2007Palm Coast, FL

candlepower19,122241550
3/20/2007Lansing, IA

Team-Rosa11,974200
3/19/2007Springfield, VA

GLOUCESTER11,656120
3/17/2007Newport News, VA

Ohiodreamhome12,0364140
3/16/2007Reynoldsburg, OH

Gypsy-Love12,527110
3/12/2007Highland, NY

Forrest-Towne11,712220
3/10/2007Brinnon, WA

Dreams-Come-True10,984100
3/8/2007Glen St Mary, FL

Almost-A-Country-Gir...10,994100
3/7/2007Addison Township, MI

BrandonBuildingBlog11,780100
3/4/2007Layton, UT

SafecreteHouse13,031300
3/4/2007Raleigh, NC

newbie-12,141100
2/21/2007North Plains, OR

BuzzardsNest14,383310
2/14/2007Saint Lucie, FL

woodfamilyhome12,495200
2/10/2007Keno, OR

vegascastle11,814100
2/3/2007Henderson, NV

newsteel17,784100
1/28/2007Florence, SC

Dream-Home-200712,319100
1/27/2007Gwynn Oak, MD

DelgadosAdobeAbode12,713200
1/18/2007San Diego, CA

bobindeltona14,939250
1/14/2007Deltona, FL

Highland6412,428300
1/8/2007New Orleans, LA

SmallProjectSilverSp...17,7611020
1/7/2007Silver Springs, NV

BeehlerHome22,68911640
1/3/2007Kalamazoo, MI

eveningshade12,026110
12/25/2006Evening Shade, AR

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As promised, those pictures of the glass block.

Posted by Lisa in Groveland, FL on 6/25/2007

Robert did a great job with the glass block, and quickly too. Such a shame the shower block has to still be done!! I took the photos yesterday (Monday 25th June) as Sunday it was raining cats and dogs in the afternoon.

The framers turned up (plus a team) and are setting to on the trusses and internal framing. I am about to go up to the land as Rupe reports it is coming on really quickly and we want to set to on the plugging before it all dies!! No way can I see they will be out before Wed/Thurs, but we shall see. Three weeks is still good and other than communication needs to improve, and a pinch of salt needs to be taken with all promises,  I have no complaints with the framers and at the moment would definitely use them again.

Unfortunately a dodgy tummy and a definite preference for home conveniences over the onsite toilet have got me posting and staying at home, for the moment!!!

I have included some pics of the girls and internal framing as it was yesterday. It looks like a mass of wood at the moment.

We selected our roof shingles yesterday and have lots of samples at home!!! We are leaning towards the Certainteed 30-year Landmark fungus-resistant Resawn Shake at the moment, as to us the red looks naff in our opinion unless it is tile and it is a lighter option for the colours we want. Remember we want the Mediterranean look. I will follow this with the positions pictures with the glass block, and just for you Dad, we were at the visitors centre yesterday to ask them something and saw this vintage car and thought you would appreciate the photos. You don’t see many “horseless carriages” in this neck of the woods!!!

 

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